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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Default OEM tire sizes- not possible to keep speedometer correct?

So I was doing a little research for my GS400. On the decal in the side of the driver's door, the two stock sizes are listed:

225/55/16
235/45/17

But those aren't equivalent. Mathematically, the 17" stock tire/wheel setup is 1.6% smaller, which would (although very slightly) throw your speedometer off.

I guess I'm surprised because Lexus is all about precision. I guess my question is which is the 'baseline' tire size? When your speedometer shows 100mph, which tire size must you be using in order for your speedo to be 100% accurate? And, wouldn't a closer size to the 16" tire be a 245/45/17?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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You are correct the math is off, but depending on the tire you use the math is not always correct. My GS300 stock tire size is 225/55-16 (25.7" dia.) and I will be puting 235/45-17 (25.6" dia.) tires on new rims this spring. I will be using Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and according to the Michelin web site there are close in the outside diameter. See attched file.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Great question. I've been told that the speedometer is calibrated depending on whether your car originally came with 16s or 17s. I find this hard to believe, but that's what I've been told.

By the way, here's a good calculator to use in determining how far off your speedo will be with various rim/tire combos (I can't take credit for this -- chuckb sent me the link):

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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That's the website I was using! I didn't think anyone else used it but me...

Anyway, so does anyone have an idea why the 17"s aren't 245/45/17? If I'm looking to upgrade wheels/tires, should I be looking for that size instead?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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hmmmm

My understanding was that the radius of the rubber is almost the same fro 16 or 17 inch. The rim size changes and the height of the side-wall is reduced. [You see less rubber from the side].

As the tires wear out, surely the rotations (measured) --> distance covered gets off.

Salim.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EyesOnly
That's the website I was using! I didn't think anyone else used it but me...

Anyway, so does anyone have an idea why the 17"s aren't 245/45/17? If I'm looking to upgrade wheels/tires, should I be looking for that size instead?
Well, my stock tires were 245/45/17 when I got the car brand new....
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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I think alot of people with oem 17s switch to 245/45s. Should be no prob and closer to the stock 16s outside diameter.
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