Toyota rebooting its EV plan with Tesla in mind
I can play the number game also. Florida has 7,670.861 registered vehicles in 2021. 96k is a drop in the bucket. Sorry if I don't see many EV's on the road.
Most EV's sold now are "toys", a second or third vehicle in the family. So most of the them are in the garage waiting for a weekend spin while the old reliable ICE is used every day. I also consider EV's in the "model T" era. Battery tech has a long way to go in development. I would never buy one today.
Most EV's sold now are "toys", a second or third vehicle in the family. So most of the them are in the garage waiting for a weekend spin while the old reliable ICE is used every day. I also consider EV's in the "model T" era. Battery tech has a long way to go in development. I would never buy one today.
And take pickup trucks out, as there is no apples-to-apples comparison.
Did you know the Model Y is expected to be the #1 selling car in the world by volume and it is probably #1 already by revenue?
Tesla is at the bottom of the barrel for reliability, second worst of them all. That isn’t denial, that’s the truth. They need dealers for the things that go wrong with the cars. The denial is the people who think just because the car is battery powered and that nothing will ever go wrong. Again check that reliability list.
And CR says Tesla has the highest customer satisfaction of any car; only the mighty Porsche comes close...
Just experience with and confidence in Toyota. You don't think Toyota can make a reliable and long lasting EV? I have every confidence they can. Electric motors are very long lived, and less complexity equals less things to go wrong, Toyota can make reliable extremely long lasting ICE cars they certainly can an EV.
If you know people with Teslas, the issues are with the electronics, computers, telematics, they aren't issues with the motors or batteries. Those are all areas where Toyota excels in reliability.
Upfront, for now...but maintenance and running costs are much less.
How does that make sense when every major automaker has pledged to make only them within the next 20 years? Sales of EVs are going to explode, not slow down.
If you know people with Teslas, the issues are with the electronics, computers, telematics, they aren't issues with the motors or batteries. Those are all areas where Toyota excels in reliability.
To purchase an electric car, one has to pay more $$$ compared to a gas car.
EVs will slow down at some point
Tesla Made 8 Times More Profit Per Car Than Toyota
Toyota may have outsold Tesla 7 to 1 during the third quarter of this year but it is the electric car manufacturer that reported higher net profits for the period.
In fact, Tesla reported a $3.29 billion net profit in the July-September quarter compared with a $3.15 billion (434.2 billion yen) net profit for Toyota, meaning Tesla earned eight times as much profit per vehicle as Toyota.
In fact, Tesla reported a $3.29 billion net profit in the July-September quarter compared with a $3.15 billion (434.2 billion yen) net profit for Toyota, meaning Tesla earned eight times as much profit per vehicle as Toyota.
I take these numbers with a grain of salt. With the supply constraints many models were undeliverable. I know the Lexus NX at Cambridge experienced production slowdowns due to part shortages, Lexus would prefer to slowdown production versus Ford that puts unfinished models in a field.
Tesla will always win the per unit profit because they are insanely over priced.

There's no way to spin it, Tesla is way more successful than any other brand right now when it comes to profitability. Toyota has noticed, and they want a piece of the action.
Maybe... people are just willing to pay that price for a Tesla because it's worth it.
Tesla definitely has street cred. But still some glaring flaws for the price.
Well, not because it's worth it but because fools part with their money for no reason all the time.
Your argument is falling apart. Do you think Toyota would jack the price of a Corolla up to Tesla profit margins? Toyota sells cars in all price ranges for different customers. Tesla just has 4 overpriced 4 door sports cars that a lot of people don't want. I read that Tesla is working on 25K model. I can't wait to see what piece of junk that will be.
Well, not because it's worth it but because fools part with their money for no reason all the time.
Well, not because it's worth it but because fools part with their money for no reason all the time.
Whether you think a Tesla should be worth as much of a Corolla has no bearing on whether a vehicle is "overpriced" as people have already paid for it.














