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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 12:18 PM
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part of the 'problem' though is the demand FAR exceeds the supply... but EA is working like mad to increase capacity and upgrade existing chargers.

so even as they expand and upgrade, the demand often causes issues on their network. but they are making progress.

https://insideevs.com/news/718270/el...harging-stats/

it is definitely a testament to tesla's commitment, engineering, and implementation of their network that it's so good. but competition is good, and maybe EA is behind, but options are a good thing and even if every car could be charged at Tesla SCs, we still need more capacity and locations.
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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 12:21 PM
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might want to look at data vs anecdotes and bad prior experiences.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/02/18...-be-improving/
Data doesn't mean anything to me when I go to an EA charger and it doesn't work. You can throw all the data you want at me all day long, experience is what counts, and mine is not good. I could throw lots of youtube videos and stories of bad charging experiences with EA, but it serves no purpose
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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 12:29 PM
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The 2023 Impact report from Tesla had them at 99.97% uptime. I can't find any uptime figures for EA aside from them saying their next gen cabinets will meet the mandated 97% uptime. That 3% difference is significant
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The 2023 Impact report from Tesla had them at 99.97% uptime. I can't find any uptime figures for EA aside from them saying their next gen cabinets will meet the mandated 97% uptime. That 3% difference is significant
I'm really not trying to rage on EA, I want to give them a chance to improve their network and to expand it, and nothing would make me happier. But here in California, they have not expanded their network, or the number of stations in existing sites. Going through their news releases, they did add a new site in SF in April, but that's it.

On Friday we are going on a trip to Santa Barbara, which is about 300 miles away. There is literally only 2 EA sites on the way, one in Goleta outside of Santa Barbara with 6 chargers, and one in North Santa Barbara with 4 chargers. All are showing "Full" in the app. The one in North Santa Barbara is past our destination, making it not very ideal for us. So we could take either the Polestar or Ioniq 5, but it wouldn't be ideal. Santa Barbara is a popular destination, so there is a large chance that the chargers are full. We could drive at night, but why?

If EA actually adds more charging sites, adds more chargers to their existing sites and they are reliable, then I will be onboard again. But until then, paint me a skeptic
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Data doesn't mean anything to me when I go to an EA charger and it doesn't work. You can throw all the data you want at me all day long, experience is what counts, and mine is not good. I could throw lots of youtube videos and stories of bad charging experiences with EA, but it serves no purpose
subjectively your experience matters. objectively, data matters and your individual experience, while interesting, is irrelevant.
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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
subjectively your experience matters. objectively, data matters and your individual experience, while interesting, is irrelevant.
I get you man, I'm all but done with my EA ranting, I'm looking forward to the future
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it's all good. what will you rant about once EA becomes pretty reliable?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it's all good. what will you rant about once EA becomes pretty reliable?
Haha I have no idea, but I'll find something 🤣
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it's all good. what will you rant about once EA becomes pretty reliable?
Delays in NACS plug deployment
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Haha I have no idea, but I'll find something 🤣
some people aren't happy unless they're complaining.
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Haha I have no idea, but I'll find something 🤣
Car dealerships

back on topic - I ride MTB with a gal who writes owners manual for Rivian. she's excited about the R2
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back on topic - I ride MTB with a gal who writes owners manual for Rivian. she's excited about the R2
Been there, done that 🤣
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2 batches of NACS emails have gone out this week. Hopefully this signals some production ramp
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Part 2 of Gjeebs Rivian road trip

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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
2 batches of NACS emails have gone out this week. Hopefully this signals some production ramp
On the Ford side, there have been few any NACS adapter shipments in July. Mine still shows as shipping in July (it was originally supposed to be May) but it hasn't sipped yet. I have the A2Z anyway, but keen to get the "official" one.
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