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Jul 23, 2024 | 04:22 AM

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0 problems with EA for me so far. guess they did 'em right in florida and georgia.

most charging power with the fastest charging car...

Jul 23, 2024 | 08:38 AM

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0 problems with EA for me so far. guess they did 'em right in florida and georgia.

most charging power with the fastest charging car...

I'm glad they are working for you guys over there, but unfortunately not so much here. I think that will change as they start getting more heavily used in those areas. The EA chargers worked really well in the early parts of 2021-2022 when they only saw 20 or 30 EV's a day, but began to fail badly as more and more EV's hit the road. And when you only have 4 to 6 chargers placed in an area that sees 200 to 300 cars a day passing through, they get overwhelmed. Gjeebs frustration is all to familiar to me and strikes home.

They are so bad it is now at the point where if someone came with a sledgehammer and smashed them all up, I would probably have a smile on my face

Jul 23, 2024 | 09:34 AM

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I think that will change as they start getting more heavily used in those areas.

how could you know how heavily they're used here? i assure you they're full or almost full every time i've gone.

Jul 23, 2024 | 09:39 AM

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how could you know how heavily they're used here? i assure you they're full or almost full every time i've gone.

I'm just guessing because they worked here well when utilization was low. They use the same exact hardware here as they use everywhere else, so what else could it be...maybe they like Florida better 🤣

Jul 23, 2024 | 09:56 AM

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Might be newer stations as well. The new one by my house is always full and plugshare reviews are overall positive. I've never had to use it since I can drive the 5 minutes home

Jul 23, 2024 | 10:06 AM

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Might be newer stations as well. The new one by my house is always full and plugshare reviews are overall positive. I've never had to use it since I can drive the 5 minutes home

Near my house earlier this year they tore out all the older 150kW chargers and installed brand new 350kW chargers, three altogether. There is alway one or two of them not working. It's rare that all three are online. Last week I was passing by driving my wife's Ioniq (with supports 350kW) and it maxed out at maybe 140 kW.

I've used plenty of the new ones, and they seem to have the same issues as the old ones. I don't think EA is serious about charging infrastructure, just my observation

Jul 23, 2024 | 10:16 AM

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Turns out diesel emission penalty isn't a good reason to start an EV charging company

Jul 23, 2024 | 10:20 AM

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Turns out diesel emission penalty isn't a good reason to start an EV charging company

Haha apparently not. It would have been better if they may be worked on cleaner burning diesel instead 🤣

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Jul 23, 2024 | 12:16 PM

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Turns out diesel emission penalty isn't a good reason to start an EV charging company

It's like a thief starting a security company.

Jul 24, 2024 | 08:06 AM

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Mobile service was nice and easy. Added a tire rotation to it since he was out here anyway. I'm at about 8/32 tread depth at 14K miles so on track for 30K-ish miles. I'll probably swap sooner as they start to get louder.

He was driving a Sprinter instead of a Rivian service van which was a bummer. He mentioned he had to drive 3+ hours a day to get to each of the appointments so it makes sense.

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Jul 24, 2024 | 08:21 AM

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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ys-2024-07-24/

Also Rivian and Tesla going to court. Tesla sued claiming trade secrets were stolen as Rivian was poaching employees. Will be interesting to see what shakes out

Jul 24, 2024 | 09:15 AM

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Small amount of chargers per location, chargers always down or slow, etc.

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The new one by my house is always full and plugshare reviews are overall positive.

so maybe not 'always down or slow'.

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That's why we haven't done many long trips in the Rivian. EA reliability in the NE is weak at best and even Tesla SCs tend to be V2.

what does bold part mean, the tesla sc's in your don't charge fast enough?

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Last week I was passing by driving my wife's Ioniq (with supports 350kW) and it maxed out at maybe 140 kW.

just because a charger and a car are capable of charging at 350 doesn't mean you'll get it. lots of factor involved. same with tesla (only slower lol - they max at 250, right?).

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I don't think EA is serious about charging infrastructure, just my observation

besides making no sense, your observation noted. EA clearly has had a lot of problems. but always saying the same things over and over because you've had bad experiences ignores the fact that things can and do change and (shock) improve. i'm not some kind of EA shill or fanboy, just a satisfied customer, although even with that i believe the ux on the chargers is problematic, plus the last one i went to with two handles and only one car can charge at a time made no sense to me.

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It's like a thief starting a security company.

funny analogy as MANY security companies have been started by former criminals/hackers, etc. most of them just didn't get caught.

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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ys-2024-07-24/
Also Rivian and Tesla going to court. Tesla sued claiming trade secrets were stolen as Rivian was poaching employees. Will be interesting to see what shakes out

not shocked.

Jul 24, 2024 | 09:18 AM

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Overall positive doesn't mean all positive

I'm sure there is a fair amount of user error as well.

Non-Tesla charging is limited to V3 and V4 super chargers. V2 chargers are slower (150kw max) but they also don't have the tech to talk to non-Teslas.

Jul 24, 2024 | 09:36 AM

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When I keep having bad experiences with them, it makes perfect sense, to me at least. I totally forgive them for having issues in 2022. I totally forgive them for having issues in 2023. Now I've run out of forgiveness in 2024, which is a lifetime when it comes to improving tech. In just one year, Polestar increased range and efficiency using the same size battery pack, and now the 2024 models have up to 320 miles range, while I'm lucky to get 230 on my 2022 model. That's how you are supposed to improve, EA seems to be standing still, stuck in a time warp deploying inadequate chargers that constantly fail.

Good working infrastructure is extremely important for overall EV adoption, and not everyone wants a Tesla. Personally, I don't think EA is serious in helping it along. Until they prove otherwise, this is my stance