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I own 6 gas cars pretty sure I have a good sense of what is a more convenient vehicle is to own. But that's just me I don't consonantly try and berate people for their choice of owning a gas car.
Back on topic Toyota is getting flack because they are lying about real world usage of plug-in hybrids as explained in the article.
Again, I have absolutely, positively nothing against people who chose to drive PHEV's. But if you live in a place like California (like I do), or you charge at home and drive less than 200 miles a day, a PHEV is a waste of money. And if your daily commute is like mine, only 20 miles a day, it's an absolute waste of money and just becomes a preference, which for me is fine. Performance alone is why a PHEV is a no go for me
I own 6 gas cars pretty sure I have a good sense of what is a more convenient vehicle is to own. But that's just me I don't consonantly try and berate people for their choice of owning a gas car.
Back on topic Toyota is getting flack because they are lying about real world usage of plug-in hybrids as explained in the article.
A BEV would be convenient for me too, since I have 4 other ICE vehicles to drive when it isn't.
A BEV would be convenient for me too, since I have 4 other ICE vehicles to drive when it isn't.
My issues with the fuel efficient PHEV's is that they don't offer the performance I want. My last gas car was a modded IS350 Sport, anything less than that performance wise is just a no go for me. Otherwise I have no issues with people preferring a PHEV or Hybrids, if they are fine with the performance, than Godspeed to them
My issues with the fuel efficient PHEV's is that they don't offer the performance I want. My last gas car was a modded IS350 Sport, anything less than that performance wise is just a no go for me. Otherwise I have no issues with people preferring a PHEV or Hybrids, if they are fine with the performance, than Godspeed to them
I completely understand that perspective. I wouldn't buy one for the same reason. But it is a very good solution for regular folks that don't want to deal with the negatives of BEV ownership.
I completely understand that perspective. I wouldn't buy one for the same reason. But it is a very good solution for regular folks that don't want to deal with the negatives of BEV ownership.
That's why I don't knock anyone's choice to drive them. My reason is personal preference. BTW, the Ambien reference was just a joke, hopefully nobody was offended
Oh dear God no! I used to do a lot of my own stuff, but now I just take my Sienna to my mechanic. The $60 he charges me is worth every penny
The only exception is my low mileage 430. Oil change once a year at Lexus. It's only got 24k miles on it and I want to keep all the service with Lexus just in case I want to sell it one day.
That's why I don't knock anyone's choice to drive them. My reason is personal preference. BTW, the Ambien reference was just a joke, hopefully nobody was offended
lol. You must be really beat down by the wokester snowflakes if you are worried about that being offensive.
It's a hassle even when I do it myself have to haul the oil away to a hazmat site.
It's a mild annoyance. I usually do it once or twice a year at the recycle center near my work. Usually get rid of other stuff too like old paint or electronics while I'm at it.
My issues with the fuel efficient PHEV's is that they don't offer the performance I want. My last gas car was a modded IS350 Sport, anything less than that performance wise is just a no go for me. Otherwise I have no issues with people preferring a PHEV or Hybrids, if they are fine with the performance, than Godspeed to them
My PHEV is .8 secs slower to 60 than your Y. How often do you go from 0-60 in 4.6 seconds? I can’t recall the last time I’ve floored it 0-60.
Originally Posted by LeX2K
It's a hassle even when I do it myself have to haul the oil away to a hazmat site.
Its’s no different from putting anything else in your vehicle. Guess everything you put in your vehicle is a hassle. 🫣
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
according to redline reviews video, when driving an rx450h+ in 'EV mode' it has 179hp and the vehicle is 4800lbs, so it's very slow (0-60 in 10 seconds?). he also said it's good for 37mi, not 46. so while you love it's big virtue (long range) you're dragging around a huge/heavy ice engine and transmission. i believe the battery is 18kwh? so that means you're getting 2mi/kwh, which is bad.
glad you're happy with its compromises.
I have the exact same engine and battery as he does. My EV range is showing 53 atm. 0-60 in about 8 seconds give or take in EV mode. My 3rd Prius 10 secs 0-60 but my R4P in EV mode is definitely faster than the Prius.
Quick google search, a MYLR has a 81kwh battery. 75kwh is usable. So it’s hauling around 6kwh of unusable battery which is equivalent to 3.75 RAV4 hybrid batteries.
Ioniq 5 has 77kwh battery. 70kwh is usable. So it’s hauling around 7kwh of unusable battery which is equivalent to 4.375 RAV4 hybrid batteries.
My PHEV is .8 secs slower to 60 than your Y. How often do you go from 0-60 in 4.6 seconds? I can’t recall the last time I’ve floored it 0-60.
Its’s no different from putting anything else in your vehicle. Guess everything you put in your vehicle is a hassle. 🫣
I have the exact same engine and battery as he does. My EV range is showing 53 atm. 0-60 in about 8 seconds give or take in EV mode. My 3rd Prius 10 secs 0-60 but my R4P in EV mode is definitely faster than the Prius.
Quick google search, a MYLR has a 81kwh battery. 75kwh is usable. So it’s hauling around 6kwh of unusable battery which is equivalent to 3.75 RAV4 hybrid batteries.
Ioniq 5 has 77kwh battery. 70kwh is usable. So it’s hauling around 7kwh of unusable battery which is equivalent to 4.375 RAV4 hybrid batteries.
I think my Y will smoke your PHEV pretty badly. I went against my friends M4320i and he lost pretty bad. It would be even worse against my Polestar. You'll need to bring out the Type R my friend 😂
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