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You need to be struck by lightning to know what it feels like. You had to live in the 18th century to fully appreciate how industry took over the world. You have to actually climb Everest to understand the challenge.
I personally would never climb mount Everest without at least consulting someone who has. And I certainly wouldn't try to be "smarter" than them
To be blunt a pure EV would be a better fit for you overall.
You’re probably right because that’s how I treat it. Although the gas is comforting secure feeling.
Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I've owned four EV's since 2020 and I've never experienced any of those issues either. It seems people who have never owned one, or took a trip in one experience issues we don't 🤣. Range anxiety experienced by non EV owners. Amazing
No, but I think if one actually climbed mount Everest, you would be in a better position to tell others climbers what to expect. Just a thought
Do you really need to have tackled Everest to talk mountains? How about folks who've climbed K2 or Denali? Aren't they clued up enough to weigh in? And think about all those analysts digging through data from climbs all over the world—surely they've got some insights, even without strapping on a harness themselves. Plus, if you've scaled peaks like Mont Blanc, you've got more than enough cred to talk about high-altitude challenges.
You need to be struck by lightning to know what it feels like. You had to live in the 18th century to fully appreciate how industry took over the world. You have to actually climb Everest to understand the challenge.
And a doctors have to had overdosed in fentanyl to recognize fentanyl overdose of a patient.
Do you really need to have tackled Everest to talk mountains? How about folks who've climbed K2 or Denali? Aren't they clued up enough to weigh in? And think about all those analysts digging through data from climbs all over the world—surely they've got some insights, even without strapping on a harness themselves. Plus, if you've scaled peaks like Mont Blanc, you've got more than enough cred to talk about high-altitude challenges.
Yes it's exactly how folks who don't have kids tell parents how to be a better parent. Makes perfect sense 👍
Do you really need to have tackled Everest to talk mountains? How about folks who've climbed K2 or Denali? Aren't they clued up enough to weigh in? And think about all those analysts digging through data from climbs all over the world—surely they've got some insights, even without strapping on a harness themselves. Plus, if you've scaled peaks like Mont Blanc, you've got more than enough cred to talk about high-altitude challenges.
I don't know anything about mount Blanc, you may get some experience as a climber, but you still may not be prepared for Everest. I would still consult someone experienced climbing that particular mountain.
Most people who say negative things about EVs in my experience have never even driven one, much less lived with one for four years. If I want to really know more about an S Class, I would ask Steve questions, not a guy who owns a Cadillac
Btw, I did close to 60 miles of EV today (it’s rated for 42) had 4 miles left. ...
Once I saw I could pretty much commute daily on EV only, I rarely experience the 302hp. I run in EV mode so much, my daughter thinks we have an EV.In 19k miles she’s seen me pump gas in it 2x and both were on road trips.
if i drive 60mi. in my bev i don't even think about it and i will have over 150mi. left.
oh and i've never pumped in gas.
and my car has well over 300hp on tap all the time.
if you love a phev you'll love a bev even more, i promise.
Originally Posted by LeX2K
Here's a secret hardly anyone knows, people give to charity for themselves not to help anyone. They do it to feel good it's all for selfish reasons.
a bit off topic, but agreed, altruism is a myth. nothing wrong with doing good for others and feeling good about it though.
Originally Posted by asj2024
The EU is not wrong with the data. The problem is that BEV site conveniently forgot to mention the plugin problem was a driver problem.
oh riiiight... nothing wrong with the phev's, it's the drivers that are doing it wrong.
i mean i believe you, but drivers are not about to change, and neither are real world figrues.
busted...
if i drive 60mi. in my bev i don't even think about it and i will have over 150mi. left.
oh and i've never pumped in gas.
and my car has well over 300hp on tap all the time.
if you love a phev you'll love a bev even more, i promise.
I’ll do my best impersonation until I cross that bridge
Toyota’s plug-in hybrids produce four times the claimed emissions
While the average plug-in hybrid emits 3.5 times more than WLTP figures suggest, Toyota’s flagship “green” plug-in hybrids are even worse emitting over four times more CO2 than the company’s official figures claim.
The average WLTP figures on Toyota’s plug-in vehicles is just 22 g/km however the EU’s real-world data shows that the true figure is much closer to 93 g/km. This essentially means that Toyota’s true plug-in hybrid emissions are actually much closer to its average petrol car (127.5 g/km) than the company’s official plug-in hybrid figures.
I don't understand how a PHEV emits 4x of CO2 from what's claimed.
Unless people are using the ICE more than the battery or something?
Doesn't the PHEV have a small range running on full electric?
Also, not sure why a PHEV mfg would make any CO2 claims anyway because everyone drives different.
Shaking my head at this whole thing. Lol
Read my post above. The article posted "forgot" to mention that it was because of driver behavior. Some plugin users can't or don't use the EV mode, so they basically are driving a less efficient HEV...less efficient than non-plugin hybrids because it has added weight of lithium battery.
I drive mostly EV mode daily, with HV reserved for long trips, so I optimize the capabilities of the PHEV by balancing environmental friendliness with personal happiness. My PHEV has around 46 miles of range on EV in warm weather when I drive (more than enough for the vast majority of days), close to 600 miles range in total.
I drive mostly EV mode daily, with HV reserved for long trips, so I optimize the capabilities of the PHEV by balancing environmental friendliness with personal happiness. My PHEV has around 46 miles of range on EV in warm weather when I drive (more than enough for the vast majority of days), close to 600 miles range in total.
according to redline reviews video, when driving an rx450h+ in 'EV mode' it has 179hp and the vehicle is 4800lbs, so it's very slow (0-60 in 10 seconds?). he also said it's good for 37mi, not 46. so while you love it's big virtue (long range) you're dragging around a huge/heavy ice engine and transmission. i believe the battery is 18kwh? so that means you're getting 2mi/kwh, which is bad.
according to redline reviews video, when driving an rx450h+ in 'EV mode' it has 179hp and the vehicle is 4800lbs, so it's very slow (0-60 in 10 seconds?). he also said it's good for 37mi, not 46. so while you love it's big virtue (long range) you're dragging around a huge/heavy ice engine and transmission. i believe the battery is 18kwh? so that means you're getting 2mi/kwh, which is bad.
glad you're happy with its compromises.
While my Model Y's peak HP is 385, my Polestar's is 476, and our Ioniq 5's is 320... compromise is the understatement of the year
04-19-24, 06:53 PM
