Toyota’s plug-in hybrids emit four times more CO2 than company claims
04-19-24, 03:11 PM
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It's an article from a biased BEV site.
The real reason is not the plugin cars themselves, but driver behavior.
Many people don't or can't take advantage of the EV capabilities of the plug ins and just use HV mode, which obviously means more ICE usage.
So if you plugin the car more, you pollute less. Simple. I use EV all the time for short distance travel, and only switch to HV when I go long distance, which is how it should be used to maximum effect. No range anxiety or stupid planning of routes, but much much less pollution than pure ICE since I drive less than 5 miles usually on average a day so 95% or more of the time I'm on EV mode (range of RX450h+ for me is around 40 miles on EV).
https://www.technologyreview.com/202...their-drivers/
The real reason is not the plugin cars themselves, but driver behavior.
Many people don't or can't take advantage of the EV capabilities of the plug ins and just use HV mode, which obviously means more ICE usage.
So if you plugin the car more, you pollute less. Simple. I use EV all the time for short distance travel, and only switch to HV when I go long distance, which is how it should be used to maximum effect. No range anxiety or stupid planning of routes, but much much less pollution than pure ICE since I drive less than 5 miles usually on average a day so 95% or more of the time I'm on EV mode (range of RX450h+ for me is around 40 miles on EV).
https://www.technologyreview.com/202...their-drivers/
Doesn't matter one way or another to me
04-19-24, 03:12 PM
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04-19-24, 03:13 PM
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The EU is not wrong with the data. The problem is that BEV site conveniently forgot to mention the plugin problem was a driver problem. Read the technology review article i posted, which explains this.
04-19-24, 03:14 PM
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Interesting.....
04-19-24, 03:15 PM
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04-19-24, 03:18 PM
#22
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I mean, just say that, nobody's going to argue with you on that point. It's a personal choice to drive a BEV or PHEV. Instead you seem to spend a lot energy justifying your choice. No need brother
04-19-24, 03:21 PM
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It's an informational thread, not a bashing thread. Should I have not posted it, is that what you're saying? If it offends you, I'll gladly ask the mods to remove it
When people post declining EV sale articles or articles on Tesla stock dropping, I don't take that as bashing EV's. If it's informational, nobody should be offended
When people post declining EV sale articles or articles on Tesla stock dropping, I don't take that as bashing EV's. If it's informational, nobody should be offended
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 04-19-24 at 03:25 PM.
04-19-24, 03:45 PM
#25
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Toyota actively lobbies against clean transport that is the truth this is simply another version of that.
04-19-24, 05:54 PM
#26
EV ftw!!!
It's an article from a biased BEV site.
The real reason is not the plugin cars themselves, but driver behavior.
Many people don't or can't take advantage of the EV capabilities of the plug ins and just use HV mode, which obviously means more ICE usage.
So if you plugin the car more, you pollute less. Simple. I use EV all the time for short distance travel, and only switch to HV when I go long distance, which is how it should be used to maximum effect. No range anxiety or stupid planning of routes, but much much less pollution than pure ICE since I drive less than 5 miles usually on average a day so 95% or more of the time I'm on EV mode (range of RX450h+ for me is around 40 miles on EV).
https://www.technologyreview.com/202...their-drivers/
The real reason is not the plugin cars themselves, but driver behavior.
Many people don't or can't take advantage of the EV capabilities of the plug ins and just use HV mode, which obviously means more ICE usage.
So if you plugin the car more, you pollute less. Simple. I use EV all the time for short distance travel, and only switch to HV when I go long distance, which is how it should be used to maximum effect. No range anxiety or stupid planning of routes, but much much less pollution than pure ICE since I drive less than 5 miles usually on average a day so 95% or more of the time I'm on EV mode (range of RX450h+ for me is around 40 miles on EV).
https://www.technologyreview.com/202...their-drivers/
I get in the car, input a destination and I'm driving off.
Not sure why you keep talking about all these "issues" when you don't even have an EV...
04-19-24, 06:28 PM
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04-19-24, 06:43 PM
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Must you have lived in the 18th century to discuss the implications of the Industrial Revolution?
Should you have climbed Mount Everest to talk about the challenges of mountain climbing?
04-19-24, 06:48 PM
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04-19-24, 06:50 PM
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You need to be struck by lightning to know what it feels like. You had to live in the 18th century to fully appreciate how industry took over the world. You have to actually climb Everest to understand the challenge.
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