It is very attractive for sure. But it is still like a crossover.

 

I like this angle and color combination.

Not many of either I can say that about. But for me, the interior is what's most important.

 

Looks good there I agree.

 

front door looks too small and square. undersized. the door handles look way oversized as a result. the proportions are just all kinds of weird.

 

Hard to tell in the dark color. Perhaps thats why it looks okay😃

 

Those black mascara things are sumpin else.
if I order a black car can I get them in white?

 

What a mess. It needs to at least match my Tesla 3 for range, but it falls short.

They should have just brought the crown sedan (different roofline and more features than the Toyota crown “sedan” we get in North America). Give it the same power train as the crown platinum (380h/400tq) and then did the BEV after that.

 

how is the head room in the rear?



rear headroom took me out of the market on a new crown platinum and cpo LS500. I’m hoping that the new ES is closer to the JDM crown “sedan” (which is actually a hatchback like a A7). I’d be open to the hybrid 8ES, but the range on the initial BEV is a non-starter. My Tesla has barely enough range in real world driving.

 

Rear seat room is where this shines. I am 6”5. I made a couple of videos

 

 

Lexus says this is a “character line”.
They should at least offer it in body color to match the rest of the car so it doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb.

 

Perfect for the ChDM owner of these. Will these be imported to China or local coop factory?

 

Can you use the rear seat with the ottoman out? Or what do you think the max height is that the ottoman accommodates?

 

What's "ChDM?"
Of course. The 8ES was designed primarily for the Chinese market.

 

Chinese domestic market