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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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Default Small but strange: Key fob design decision

Not a big deal by any means; I searched the forum and couldn't find a discussion about it. But...

I happened to notice that many Lexus models, including some with the newfangled sleek-design key fobs, have the traditional hole in them so you can carry them on a key ring or keychain. It appears in pictures that the ES's fob has no such feature. Is it, in fact, absent?
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 08:30 AM
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My 2022 ES fob has a hole to attach it to a key ring.
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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I only carry my iPhone and keyfob, everything else is digital.


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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas250
My 2022 ES fob has a hole to attach it to a key ring.
Is the hole in the fob itself, or in the pouch as shown in Kalel's photo?

Also, does the smart card make the fob mostly unnecessary in daily use?
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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The small eyelet at the top is where I put the ring that holds the one key I carry.

Da' spouse likes a lot more bling on the NX fob, which has two slots to fit a small ring. If you notice the ES fob has a much smaller opening.

NX on left, ES on right.

Couldn't comment on smart card since my F Sport is a '19.



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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LexWannabe
Is the hole in the fob itself, or in the pouch as shown in Kalel's photo?

Also, does the smart card make the fob mostly unnecessary in daily use?
It's part of the removable key that's attached to the key fob, see below:


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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Thanks, both of you. This is very informative.

While we're on the subject, I'd still love to hear from a smart card owner how that works.
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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Best of both...

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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 11:26 AM
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I bought this one on eBay:

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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 02:02 AM
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I only carry the credit card sized wallet key.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 02:51 AM
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Does the 2019+ ES has the credit card key?
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LjeksesES
Does the 2019+ ES has the credit card key?
No on the 2019.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LjeksesES
Does the 2019+ ES has the credit card key?
programming a card key from the Lexus IS will work.

Last edited by 703; Jan 4, 2022 at 03:10 AM.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 703
programming a card key from the Lexus IS well work.
This makes sense. The one I saw for sale was around $300.00... For now I'll just carry the smart key...
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