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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 03:04 PM
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We have a 2015 ES350 UL with exterior Obsidian and interior black. Shopping for a 2025 ES350 UL and cant seem to find one with exterior Obsidian. I found a few with Caviar exterior which I'm told is black but have never seen in person.

One dealer told me Obsidian has been replaced by Caviar. Other dealers have said Obsidian is just popular and tough to get now.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 03:50 PM
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Correct! Apparently Lexus transitioned from offering the "Obsidian" color to "Caviar" for the ES - 7th Gen (2019-present).

The difference appears to be "Obsidian" being a deep black and "Caviar" offering a slightly warmer, metallic black tone.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scubapr
Correct! Apparently Lexus transitioned from offering the "Obsidian" color to "Caviar" for the ES - 7th Gen (2019-present).
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Hmm... According to the US Lexus official exterior color options both "Obsidian" and "Caviar" are still choices for 2025 ES models. See the third to last page of the MY25-Lexus-ES-ESh-Brochure or the (US) Lexus com ES web page's exterior colors options panel. In looking at the 2019 through 2025 model year ES brochure pdf copies I have archived, "Obsidian" and "Caviar" always have been exterior color option for every model year of this generation of ES.

Whether or not you can find new 2025 ESs built with those exterior colors is another matter.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 04:34 PM
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I have seen what I saw to be Cavier around me. It is black but has a little purple hue to it.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeaco
I have seen what I saw to be Cavier around me. It is black but has a little purple hue to it.
Obsidian is jet black, where as Caviar is black with metallic flake in it.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by scubapr
Correct! Apparently Lexus transitioned from offering the "Obsidian" color to "Caviar" for the ES - 7th Gen (2019-present).

The difference appears to be "Obsidian" being a deep black and "Caviar" offering a slightly warmer, metallic black tone.
They definitely still offer obsidian. A dealer close to me has a 2025 ES350 F Sport design in obsidian.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nflguy49
We have a 2015 ES350 UL with exterior Obsidian and interior black. Shopping for a 2025 ES350 UL and cant seem to find one with exterior Obsidian. I found a few with Caviar exterior which I'm told is black but have never seen in person.

One dealer told me Obsidian has been replaced by Caviar. Other dealers have said Obsidian is just popular and tough to get now.
Drive your Obsidian to a Lexus dealer, pull up next to a Caviar Lexus, doesn't have to be ES, you'll see the exact difference
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:50 PM
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I know what you mean. I’m in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, and before I ordered my F Sport, I considered a UL in either white or Obsidian with a Palomino interior. I could find at least two white/Palomino ULs, but not an Obsidian one. You should look at a Caviar UL. You may like it. I like metallic paint in every color except black. But it is a mica paint job, so you may like it. I have a friend that has a Caviar UL, and it looks good to me.

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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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I stand corrected. Google AI gave me the wrong info on this.
The official Lexus online "build" page shows both colors as options for the 2025 MY. Just checked online and a few dealers have inventory on "Obsidian" exterior. So definitely still available.
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Caviar is beautiful when sunny.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 10:58 AM
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Funny, my ex-wife was pretty only when it was dark.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 07:27 AM
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"Funny, my ex-wife was pretty only when it was dark."
I know what you mean, Mcomer. When I was younger, I could drink any woman pretty.
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I have a 2023 Caviar. I've never seen an obsidian one in the wild but I have seen them on dealer listings. When sunny out and my car has recently been cleaned, it's beautiful. You can see the metallic flake in the paint and it's nice. But most of the time, at least where I live here in PA and the pollen and dust is flying, the depth and metallic flake aspect of the caviar paint is null and void. It just looks like a dull dark gray. I don't hate it, but I don't like it. I came from a Honda Civic that had a typical obsidian-like black shiny paint job. It stays nicer looking for longer between washes, whereas within 2 days post-wash and wax my caviar ES 350 loses the shine due to the dust.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mcomer
Funny, my ex-wife was pretty only when it was dark.
I bet she's not EX because of that.
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