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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 03:52 PM
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I have a new ES250 with obsidian (black) paint. I had a bird poop on my roof. I washed it off within a few hours but a white stain remained. Nothing I tried would remove the stain. Soap, wax, WD-40, nothing.

I kept searching for an answer and discovediscover's called clear coat etching caused by the uric acid in the bird poop. Should a new Lexus paint be susceptible to such a thing? I haven't called the dealer because the warranty says not responsible for things caused by environment.

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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 04:13 PM
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That stuff is toxic to paint. Depending on the quantity and the sun baking it in, your paint is damaged and will have to be refinished. You need a body shop opinion. Happened to my wife's Honda and went right thru the clearcoat and damaged the color. Sounds similar to yours. GOOD LUCK...
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The risk of dark colored exteriors.
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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
The risk of dark colored exteriors.
And black is one of the worst... Shame on a new car...
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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 06:30 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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Congratulations on your new car. It’s an easy fix. Take it to a small private owners body shop he will fix it in about five minutes. Just keep Nano wax on the car or get a fancy coating and you will be fine. Cars do not stay new forever. Dark color paints as you should know show more imperfections. Enjoy the car. Drive it! After a year or two, get all the imperfections fixed at once and drive it more. Stop worrying about white mark and drive the damn car son! 😅
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 02:34 AM
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Obsidian black is very soft and is a single stage paint. No clear coat. Lexus has always used single stage paints for black. Some may debate that but do your research before trying any repairs on your own or having a body shop try something. I formally had a 2015 Obsidian black GS350 and had issues with the paint so I did a lot of research on that particular color.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by acotugno
Obsidian black is very soft and is a single stage paint. No clear coat. Lexus has always used single stage paints for black. Some may debate that but do your research before trying any repairs on your own or having a body shop try something. I formally had a 2015 Obsidian black GS350 and had issues with the paint so I did a lot of research on that particular color.
That may have been the case at some point in the past, but I don't believe that it is true anymore.

I think that may have changed several years ago when Lexus began using the self-healing clear coat on its cars. When I bought my 2017 obsidian ES, it came with "pre-installed" polishing swirls that were the result of careless dealer preparation of the car. Over time and with the help of the sun, those swirls disappeared. So, I know that my car has the self-healing clear coat.

Also, I had the misfortune of burning through the clear coat when I got a bit too aggressive in trying to remove a scratch. And, sadly, when you burn through the clear coat, you know that that is what you have done.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 05:27 AM
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My 2019 ES300h is Caviar so basically black and it has self-restoring coating. According to manual it is good for 5-8 years.
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Originally Posted by ionian2k
My 2019 ES300h is Caviar so basically black and it has self-restoring coating. According to manual it is good for 5-8 years.
Just to clarify, the self-restoring clear coat does not "disappear" after 5-8 years. Instead, over time, it hardens and loses its ability to "restore" and make things like polishing swirls disappear.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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I can remove that in less than 5 min with a clay, DA, high finish pad and some Meguiars 105. But that's cause I'm a detailing enthusiast with that kind of stuff laying around. You can do it too though if you'd like to learn.

You can also do it with elbow grease, a microfiber, and some Meguiars ScratchX 2.0. Just more work. but it'll do.

Can you post a pic? I have experience removing all kinds of stuff, fixing defects etc.
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Originally Posted by E46CT
I can remove that in less than 5 min with a clay, DA, high finish pad and some Meguiars 105. But that's cause I'm a detailing enthusiast with that kind of stuff laying around. You can do it too though if you'd like to learn.

You can also do it with elbow grease, a microfiber, and some Meguiars ScratchX 2.0. Just more work. but it'll do.

Can you post a pic? I have experience removing all kinds of stuff, fixing defects etc.
How about SwirlX - I've used that a few times and it seems to work well - not too abrasive but just enough to handle minor issues.
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Thanks. That's what I finally did with a hairdryer and it removed about 95% of the etching. It's amazing that the clearcoat would do that.

I might have been able to get the remaining 5% if I felt comfortable continuing to apply so much heat. I spend winters in the south but I have polishing compound and a polishing tool back north that I'll use to clean up the rest.
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Nice. Good to hear it works well.
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I have the same color on my GS and it most definitely has a clear coat. Defects and damage are just more visible because it's a pure black. I just touched up the hood this morning with some Meguiars M105 (compound) and M205 (polish). Might as well pick up the good stuff because you will need it from time to time. A quick hand application with a microfiber cloth should work for this. Always apply some paint protection (sealant/wax) after compound and polish.
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