I'm debating if its worth waiting for the refresh or just buying a 2020 ES 350. Seeing how they ruined the LS 500 with the refresh exterior and infotainment slab.

​​​​​​Maybe they will make the ES ride better, quieter, and add the touch screen.

 

Last December you said you had bought a ‘19 ES. Will you be trading that in for a ‘20, ‘21, ‘22....?

 

Good catch Mick...

 

TROLL TROLL TROLL. He must be quite bored during the lockdown.

 

Ever hear of a lease? Debating on getting extending or seeing of the refresh is worth it.
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You're a ways away from the refresh

 

I figured the ES would be refreshed for the 2022 model or 2023 since the LS 500 got refreshed for the 2021 model year in Japan. I'll be holding off till the refresh press release comes out. I don't want buyers remorse on buying a new car and getting the lesser iteration.

 

The ES has been on a 6 year generation cycle with a re-fresh in the 4th model year of a generation. If the Generation 7 ES follows the same path, that would mean a mid-cycle re-fresh for the 2022 model year.

 

Yeah, I would expect a refresh in fall 2021 as a 2022 model. So, you're, 15 months away.

LS500 is a year older, came out as an 18 ES came out as a 19.

If you got a 19 and you are considering a 20 I don't see how you would have buyers remorse. You would have had the 20 longer than you have had the 19 when the 2022 comes out.

 

I see the LS is getting a refresh for 2021. From what I saw, they updated the circuit red interior to primarily black but wilh a nice touch of red trim. Much better than the current circuit red which is a bit much for my taste.

 

If you really look, you'll see the OP has not actually purchased anything. It's one of the oddest things I've seen on this forum.

 

New circuit red interior:

 

Typical troll. Bored during the pandemic I suppose.

 

Much prefer the toned down red interior. Hate the tacked on screen...