You made me go out and measure the distance between bolsters in my 2019 Ultra Lux ES 350. My seat ( I only measured the driver's seat) is identical to yours as far as dimensions. I can't speak for softness or plush.

 

I am 5'7" and 160 and find the seats in my 2025 ES300h UL very comfortable. I have been in the car for two or three hours at a stretch with no discomfort.

 

I find the seats in my 2019 ESL to be very comfortable. While I appreciate that some people don't find their driver's seat to be comfortable, I think the various theories presented as to why are pure speculation.

There are many unanswered questions. I've been following this forum for since I got my ES in 2019. IIRC, there was not one complaint about seat comfort until about a year ago. Now there are quite a few complaints. Did Lexus make any changes? I don't see a definitive anwser to this question.

 

Do you sit between the Side Bolsters or on Top of them?

 

While on the topic of seats... How does everyone keep theirs clean? Very interested in palomino seats but and worried about keeping it c lean...Ive only ever had black seats. Ive been thinking of doing Ceal by Pan ceramic leather shield myself ... but wasn't sure if that or letting the person who will do my ceramic coating do it..... Thoughts?

 

I fit between the side bolsters...

 

When you say New ES compared to 2025, which ES are you referring to? The new 2026 ES is only Electric for now. Hybrid will come out later.

 

I am interested in the 2026es hybrid and I am aware that the EV version is the only one that’s out right now. And in my area it’s not even here yet. From what the dealerships have been telling me they have a little bit before they will arrive. They’re estimating June.. But I am open to older models as well. I haven’t locked myself into a year as of yet just gathering information. When the 2026 hybrid comes out, I am open to driving it then. But for now all year models, except for the super older ones I am open to.

 

When I bought my 2013 it had Palomino seat color. It was called champagne back then but same color. I also asked what to do to clean them of soil and jeans bluing. Another member sent me this and I haven't looked back...

 

saving it for future use!!!! Thank you!! Did you use a coat or just this cleaner?