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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 09:58 AM
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Never take your car to the dealer for oil changes. They always assign the noob fresh from UTI with $50,000 student loan debt to change oil. They often use impact wrenches on drain plugs and canister housing. I experienced this on a previous post with my wife’s NX. What a flipping nightmare.
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dougdangger
Never take your car to the dealer for oil changes. They always assign the noob fresh from UTI with $50,000 student loan debt to change oil. They often use impact wrenches on drain plugs and canister housing. I experienced this on a previous post with my wife’s NX. What a flipping nightmare.
I skimmed thru the Post I think you were referring to. It looked like your plastic oil housing cracked when you removed it because the dealer over tightened it?

Whenever I have a dealer do the free oil changes I make them write up the slip "torque to spec" - at least that puts them on notice that I'm watching.
I once caught a dealer who did not change the oil or brake fluid but charged for it.

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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 08:04 AM
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We spoke to the GM at dealer and he has taken full responsibility for incident. He claimed that here is no visible metal particles in oil when it was drained. I will have oil analysed at next oil change as suggested.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 08:12 AM
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We spoke to the GM at dealer and he has taken full responsibility for incident. He claimed that here is no visible metal particles in oil when it was drained. I will have oil analysed at next oil change as suggested.
Kai…what city is this dealer in? Interested because I’d like to avoid him whenever possible. Please be absolutely certain to keep a file with ALL correspondence, photos, odometer readings, future oil changes. You will absolutely need that in the event this turns into something much more serious down the road.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kai7500
We spoke to the GM at dealer and he has taken full responsibility for incident. He claimed that here is no visible metal particles in oil when it was drained. I will have oil analysed at next oil change as suggested.
He knows there were no visible particles? Sounds like some BS to me that he would know anything about that. Good to see he took responsibility.

Get the Oil to lab next change. BTW: what change interval miles are you doing each one at?
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 02:15 PM
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He knows there were no visible particles? Sounds like some BS to me that he would know anything about that. Good to see he took responsibility.

Get the Oil to lab next change. BTW: what change interval miles are you doing each one at?
Yea he just trying to reassure OP. Unless the GM did the oil change and collected the oil in a separate container and inspected it there is no way to know they usually just dump into a portable drum on wheels. One good thing is ES line is resilient.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 02:28 PM
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One more reason I do my own oil changes. I know not everyone can, or has the interest in learning. But there's a world of difference when someone who actually cares is working on your car.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 03:46 PM
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One more reason I do my own oil changes. I know not everyone can, or has the interest in learning. But there's a world of difference when someone who actually cares is working on your car.
Once your warrantee has expired, that’s fine. Until then you’d better have proof of timely oil changes “by thebook”. I’m currently in a “leaking timing chain cover situation right at the mileage limit of the warrantee. The leak is somewhere between a “seep” and a “leak” and fortunately the previous owner was a Lexus dealership so records are complete. Will know more after a Lexus “diagnostic” next week…right now going by the local Toyota diagnostic ( the right hand doesn”t believe the left hand).
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tootsall
Once your warrantee has expired, that’s fine. Until then you’d better have proof of timely oil changes “by thebook”. I’m currently in a “leaking timing chain cover situation right at the mileage limit of the warrantee. The leak is somewhere between a “seep” and a “leak” and fortunately the previous owner was a Lexus dealership so records are complete. Will know more after a Lexus “diagnostic” next week…right now going by the local Toyota diagnostic ( the right hand doesn”t believe the left hand).
How many miles on your car with a timing cover leak?
What were the OCI's?
What brand oil , I assume 0w 20 used?
Hope you get it fixed right, AMD of CCN did a video of a timing cover leak with the engine pulled.
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 06:57 AM
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Lexus Canada warrantees to 110,000 km…I noticed problem as oil stain and fresh drops on garage floor at 109,600 km but by time I could get oil change appointment at local Toyota dealer (nearest Lexus dealer is 200 km away) it was over Christmas and odo hit 110,500 km. As stated car was previously registered to a Lexus dealership so I have to assume they used “official” oil, plus I got a copy of the maintenance history from that original dealership. Lexus Canada corporate want a “Lexus” dealer to do a diagnostic in spite of a report from Toyota including a photo. (I was hoping it was a badly torqued oil filter which is why I asked them during the oil change to clean up the area where the oil residue was located on the engine). That will happen next week, again due to shop backlogs. I am aware of the cost of repair if warrantee denied…leak seems to have stopped or greatly minimized at the moment so my tendency may be to just let it go for now; the timing cover is not under pressure so it’s kind of like those old valve cover leaks. I’ve been “quoted” anyware from “between $2,500 to $4,000” and could go higher depending on what they find by Lexus dealer and another quote at $5,000 by the local Toyota shop. There is also the possibility it is a leaking sensor. Those are $Cdn. Multiply by 0.7 exchange for $US. (This is a known issue with the 2GR engines across the Toyota line). So…if you see a lot of oil residue around the filter area (front right of the block just beside the front right wheel) or spotting on the ground where you park, get it checked immediately if you are still under drivetrain warrantee. As CCN said, it isn’t a cheap repair taking between 20-27 shop hours to fix plus parts.

ps. I did not buy the car from a Lexus dealer but a different brand dealership about 500 km away…there was about 18,000 km after the last recorded oil change but the selling dealer said they’d changed it…(that’s about 10,800 miles). Lexus Canada OCI is 16,000 km. (10,000 miles).
As I did not buy the car from a Lexus dealership and am not the original owner all I can really hope for is a “Good will” repair paid for (or at least subsidized) by Corporate…the Lexus dealership already told me they won’t cover it.
So now you know why I keep harping on “get documentation, keep it safe, KYA”. Also why I’d really like to know what city Kai had his over-torqued oil filter incident in...I'd really like to avoid them!
pps…I bought the car in otherwise pristine condition in March ‘25 for $30,000 Cdn and today that is still about $6,000 less than market price for the same car/options/mileage so even if I do have to sink some money into it, it’s not the end of the world.
Here’s a picture of the old (I got decent trade value from it with 196,000 km on the clock) and the “new”. It was a crappy day! I left home with an absolutely clean car but the last 100 km was kind of like you see here.


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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tootsall
Lexus Canada warrantees to 110,000 km…I noticed problem as oil stain and fresh drops on garage floor at 109,600 km but by time I could get oil change appointment at local Toyota dealer (nearest Lexus dealer is 200 km away) it was over Christmas and odo hit 110,500 km. As stated car was previously registered to a Lexus dealership so I have to assume they used “official” oil, plus I got a copy of the maintenance history from that original dealership. Lexus Canada corporate want a “Lexus” dealer to do a diagnostic in spite of a report from Toyota including a photo. (I was hoping it was a badly torqued oil filter which is why I asked them during the oil change to clean up the area where the oil residue was located on the engine). That will happen next week, again due to shop backlogs. I am aware of the cost of repair if warrantee denied…leak seems to have stopped or greatly minimized at the moment so my tendency may be to just let it go for now; the timing cover is not under pressure so it’s kind of like those old valve cover leaks. I’ve been “quoted” anyware from “between $2,500 to $4,000” and could go higher depending on what they find by Lexus dealer and another quote at $5,000 by the local Toyota shop. There is also the possibility it is a leaking sensor. Those are $Cdn. Multiply by 0.7 exchange for $US. (This is a known issue with the 2GR engines across the Toyota line). So…if you see a lot of oil residue around the filter area (front right of the block just beside the front right wheel) or spotting on the ground where you park, get it checked immediately if you are still under drivetrain warrantee. As CCN said, it isn’t a cheap repair taking between 20-27 shop hours to fix plus parts.

ps. I did not buy the car from a Lexus dealer but a different brand dealership about 500 km away…there was about 18,000 km after the last recorded oil change but the selling dealer said they’d changed it…(that’s about 10,800 miles). Lexus Canada OCI is 16,000 km. (10,000 miles).
As I did not buy the car from a Lexus dealership and am not the original owner all I can really hope for is a “Good will” repair paid for (or at least subsidized) by Corporate…the Lexus dealership already told me they won’t cover it.
So now you know why I keep harping on “get documentation, keep it safe, KYA”. Also why I’d really like to know what city Kai had his over-torqued oil filter incident in...I'd really like to avoid them!
pps…I bought the car in otherwise pristine condition in March ‘25 for $30,000 Cdn and today that is still about $6,000 less than market price for the same car/options/mileage so even if I do have to sink some money into it, it’s not the end of the world.
Here’s a picture of the old (I got decent trade value from it with 196,000 km on the clock) and the “new”. It was a crappy day! I left home with an absolutely clean car but the last 100 km was kind of like you see here.

Thanks for the details. At just a small amount over the Power Train warranty I hope Lexus gives you a good will repair. Hope other less costly item is the leak. If the oil canister is cracked hope that cam easily be repaired? Report your results.

Recall my post #9 to you on the crazy oil filter canister tightening the Lexus Dealership did. Lucky it was not damaged
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 12:13 PM
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It's impossible to know how much the engine was damaged (or if it was) without disassembly and inspection.
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zul8tr
Recall my post #9 to you on the crazy oil filter canister tightening the Lexus Dealership did. Lucky it was not damaged
Yes, that fancy oil filter "housing" really causes me to scratch my head...why did Toyota ever come up with that silly design in the first place. Right alongside that "head scratcher" is the elimination of front and rear towing hooks. Picture a car having slid off the road in a snowstorm down into a ditch...how is a tow truck supposed to pull it back onto the road? It's tilted sideways and nose down so the "stinger" isn't going to be very useable. Tie something around a rear wheel and yank while hoping for minimal damage to the suspension? Unlike the Southern US, the weather conditions "up here" are....different at times so getting pulled out of a ditch in winter is always a possibility. In that photo I used, when I got back home the radar cruise was not working....there was over 1/4" of frozen slush covering the entire front end of the car. Oh joy!

PS Anyway....here is the fun part....I just checked the tray I have been keeping under the engine to protect the garage floor and ever since I had the oil changed and a new filter installed....there has not been single drop of oil on the tray. Not one! Leaking timing chain cover?.....maybe; BUT....maybe not? Anyway I'll get Lexus to take a look and give me a definitive report on it so we'll see. I'm hoping the Toyota dealer just got excited about oil on the outside of the block and it actually was an oil filter housing problem...would sure be cheaper for everyone concerned. Anyone want to bet the mechanic who did the last oil change mis-torqued the filter housing?

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