Latest ES350 disappointment
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2022
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From: GA
Yes, all manufactures do/have done/and will continue to do this. However, you can opt out of it to some extent. They will still gather the information for their own use, like vehicle status and operational information, but many if not most allow you to opt out of having them sell or distribute your information. Toyota has a privacy policy that allows you to request the opt out, which can be accomplished on line. Are they honest in that? I expect so, but, as with most things and big business, it’s pretty opaque as we really don’t know in the end, but since they offer the option, take advantage of it. I did and it was easy. Just look on line.
Last edited by lobuxracer; Feb 9, 2025 at 01:58 PM.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2004
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From: North Carolina
Yes, all manufactures do/have done/and will continue to do this. However, you can opt out of it to some extent. They will still gather the information for their own use, like vehicle status and operational information, but many if not most allow you to opt out of having them sell or distribute your information. Toyota has a privacy policy that allows you to request the opt out, which can be accomplished on line. Are they honest in that? I expect so, but, as with most things and big business, it’s pretty opaque as we really don’t know in the end, but since they offer the option, take advantage of it. I did and it was easy. Just look on line.
Last edited by lobuxracer; Feb 9, 2025 at 01:59 PM.
Instructor
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From: GA
i believe the links are there to opt out of certain practices as well.
Driver
Joined: Feb 2025
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smart phones have been mandatory for work for years. So no big deal. I do like the carplay sync feature wit( my new Lexus as I can listen to any music instantly or make hands free voice calls. No dongle needed like I had to use in my old BMW which was a royal PITA.
Driver
Joined: Apr 2024
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Go drive a Cadi. Then drive a Lexus. You will change your mind quick as shi*! My heart was set on a cadi. I drove an ES right before I drove the Cadi. Bro - apples and oranges. The cadi felt like toy. Very disappointing.
Driver
Joined: Dec 2024
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From: Fl
I've had a 2025 es350 ultra luxury since October with 6500 miles on it. I've also driven it from Florida to NY twice already. My wife and I cannot find one thing to dislike about this car. It is probably the quietest and most smooth riding vehicles we've ever experienced. The seats have been extremely comfortable for an 11hr 700 mile day on the road. I do agree it's absurd that Lexus only uses a portion of the large screen in the base model. Our Lexus MSRP was $56k and change and Lexus of Winter Park discounted this vehicle $6k without even having to haggle with them. This is for a car that had 6 miles on it and was built in September. But I have to strongly disagree with some of the above comments at least as it pertains to a UL model.
My wife is so impressed with my Lexus three weeks into the ownership experience, and she wants one.
I use it mostly for work commutes. I took it on two road-trips. The adaptive cruise and lane assist are well sorted, and in highway cruising in Eco mode the V6 returns a solid mid-30s mpg.
It offers an isolated and relaxed ride, so if I want something more exciting on the weekends I take out my garage queen Honda S2000.
Driver
Joined: Dec 2023
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From: North Carolina
"so if I want something more exciting on the weekends I take out my garage queen Honda S2000."
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We all need that sports car in the garage to drive on those days we want to let loose and drive like we did in our 20s. I have a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000gt for mine youthful return to driving.!
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We all need that sports car in the garage to drive on those days we want to let loose and drive like we did in our 20s. I have a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000gt for mine youthful return to driving.!
Thread Starter
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2022
Posts: 383
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From: NJ
Few of my friends driving those Bimmers and they always turning wrenches on them. I'll pass on that crap. LOL. I am actually going to rent something German (maybe Audi A6, maybe Benz) for a few weeks on my trip to Europe later this summer, just to check it out. I used to drive German cars back in the days, but those were different cars and different days...
Driver
Joined: Feb 2025
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After owning 2 different BMW models for the past 25 years, I am finally done with the car brand. Enjoyed the performance but the bills never end and was tired in the end of always having the car in the shop and unavailable. Led me to Lexus.
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Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2022
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From: NJ
I agree. I took delivery of a 2025 ES 350 Ultra Luxury in late December. Lexus of Winter Park was the dealer. Simply the best buying experience I’ve ever had. Extremely quiet interior. Very high level of interior fit and finish. My only nitpick is that the bumper caps could be a bit tighter when compared to an Audi A6. They’re good, say 8.5 out of 10 for exterior fit, but Audi is otherworldly well assembled.Paint, however, is flawless. If I designed the car, I would like to see some more soft touch material on the sides of the center console - but I’m quibbling.
My wife is so impressed with my Lexus three weeks into the ownership experience, and she wants one.
I use it mostly for work commutes. I took it on two road-trips. The adaptive cruise and lane assist are well sorted, and in highway cruising in Eco mode the V6 returns a solid mid-30s mpg.
It offers an isolated and relaxed ride, so if I want something more exciting on the weekends I take out my garage queen Honda S2000.
My wife is so impressed with my Lexus three weeks into the ownership experience, and she wants one.
I use it mostly for work commutes. I took it on two road-trips. The adaptive cruise and lane assist are well sorted, and in highway cruising in Eco mode the V6 returns a solid mid-30s mpg.
It offers an isolated and relaxed ride, so if I want something more exciting on the weekends I take out my garage queen Honda S2000.
Does is come with the glasses holder, or it is still missing? I remember my 2016 ES350 UL on the long trip, it was the only issue worth talking about. Absolutely no room anywhere for the sunglasses.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jun 2014
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From: MI
Few of my friends driving those Bimmers and they always turning wrenches on them. I'll pass on that crap. LOL. I am actually going to rent something German (maybe Audi A6, maybe Benz) for a few weeks on my trip to Europe later this summer, just to check it out. I used to drive German cars back in the days, but those were different cars and different days...
I drove many german cars and they just wont go without constant wrenching.
I am also in Europe.
