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This is absolutely rubbish dude. Malarkey from top to bottom. Next time you write a long winded pile of rubbish like this at least you should make an effort to make your quotes accurate. You put words in your post claiming things I never said. Your entire post is deeply flawed and misleading.
You stated in Post #18
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Sharp eye, VeroCarGuy! You caught a typo. That bit about DFW was a copy-paste blunder on my part - consider it a freebie. I've fixed it. However, your original statement, which I've now accurately quoted, still stands: "I doubt seriously the dealer has done a 'national search' for a vehicle you want. It would take too much time nor does the dealer have access to a national database." And, as my (now corrected) post demonstrates, that logic is still beautifully flawed. Thanks for the assist, though!
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Thank you so much for your informative post, UltraLux.
Its valuable data is the reason we have an information-sharing forum, and it is the best antidote for the all-too-common combination of unresearched hip shots and ugly personal insults that are the unfortunate reason we need moderators.
Its valuable data is the reason we have an information-sharing forum, and it is the best antidote for the all-too-common combination of unresearched hip shots and ugly personal insults that are the unfortunate reason we need moderators.
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And back to my latest inquiry:
With this information it should lead me to negotiating price on a vehicle not on the dealer lot, i.e. using one of the method of trade or allocation. The one dealer wants me to pay full price plus $900 dealer fee if he can get me "close" to a vehicle I actually want. My view is that the dealer has ZERO chance to sell me one of his vehicles on his lot. Absolutely zero. So to increase his chances of selling me a vehicle I am willing to communicate (and provide a deposit if necessary) what I want so he can get it on his lot. Only at that point am I willing to buy it. So it does not cost him extra to either trade or modify an allocation (neither of which will be anywhere close to exactly what I want, it will have lots of options I DO NOT WANT). Seems to me that I should have at least as much, if not more, negotiating position because I am assuring the dealer of a sale. By selling quickly to me it also increases their statistics for the dealership.
Thoughts?
With this information it should lead me to negotiating price on a vehicle not on the dealer lot, i.e. using one of the method of trade or allocation. The one dealer wants me to pay full price plus $900 dealer fee if he can get me "close" to a vehicle I actually want. My view is that the dealer has ZERO chance to sell me one of his vehicles on his lot. Absolutely zero. So to increase his chances of selling me a vehicle I am willing to communicate (and provide a deposit if necessary) what I want so he can get it on his lot. Only at that point am I willing to buy it. So it does not cost him extra to either trade or modify an allocation (neither of which will be anywhere close to exactly what I want, it will have lots of options I DO NOT WANT). Seems to me that I should have at least as much, if not more, negotiating position because I am assuring the dealer of a sale. By selling quickly to me it also increases their statistics for the dealership.
Thoughts?
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In my experience with multiple brands (including Lexus) dealers are always more willing to negotiate on cars they have on their lots than one that is ordered or dealer traded for. I am not sure why this is, but it has been my experience.
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Those vehicles sitting on the dealer’s lot is costing them interest payments. That’s their motivation to move them.
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With this information it should lead me to negotiating price on a vehicle not on the dealer lot, i.e. using one of the method of trade or allocation. The one dealer wants me to pay full price plus $900 dealer fee if he can get me "close" to a vehicle I actually want. My view is that the dealer has ZERO chance to sell me one of his vehicles on his lot. Absolutely zero.
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