Notices
ES - 7th Gen (2019-2025) Discussion topics related to 2019-2025 ES models

2023 ES 350 Navigation issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 03:03 PM
  #1  
Pach's Avatar
Pach
Thread Starter
1st Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: NV
Default 2023 ES 350 Navigation issues

Anyone else having issues with the new cloud based navigation system? It seems like the older version was more user friendly. I cannot find the option to select either the fastest or the shortest route. Thanks
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 04:44 PM
  #2  
BBQapple's Avatar
BBQapple
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 909
Likes: 415
From: TX
Default

I tried it a few times when I got my 23 with nav and big screen, but ultimately prefer using screen mirroring with my iphone as the UI is a bit better for stuff like this and the turn by turn will still appear on the dash and hud if you want it to
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 04:59 PM
  #3  
bostonsnow's Avatar
bostonsnow
Advanced
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 564
Likes: 50
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by Pach
Anyone else having issues with the new cloud based navigation system? It seems like the older version was more user friendly. I cannot find the option to select either the fastest or the shortest route. Thanks
I'm now week 2 into my new 2023 ES300h. I used the Nav the first couple of days, and it gave me really whacky routes for where I was going without good or rational adjustments for traffic pattern. SO quickly I have switched to using Car Play (so nice to have apple car play on this new gen!) and running Waze through Car Play. Waze has always been my favorite Navigation app, in my 6th gen I just had my cell phone sitting in a cupholder running waze, even though I had the 6th gen nav also!
So I'm using Waze again, but in a much more sophisticated way having it run through CarPlay!

I didnt particularly want Nav with this new car but it happened to be on the car . oh well. It is nice to have the big touchsreen but I think I wont be using the Nav and not signing up for the subscription when the trial ends (I think I have 3 years?).

Reply
Old Jun 2, 2023 | 09:04 PM
  #4  
BlainePDX's Avatar
BlainePDX
Driver
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 59
Likes: 18
From: Oregon
Default

The first time I used the navigation it came up with horrible directions. The most bizarre part was with this lovely bridge, which has a small intersection at each end. It shows a route crossing the bridge, but every time I got near the bridge it would turn me away from the bridge. The only way I could actually get onto the bridge was to do the opposite of its directions! Now I use Google Maps on Android Auto when I need real directions.



Reply
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 10:25 AM
  #5  
bostonsnow's Avatar
bostonsnow
Advanced
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 564
Likes: 50
From: CA
Default

I agree. I had similar weird stuff. Now I will pull up the map just if I want to see where I am, but I dont use the direction feature - just waze for that
Its a bit of a waste of the big screen - which is now a large screen for Apple Car play pretty much. If i had the time and option to pick exactly which features I wanted, I would have left out Nav, and instead got the ML audio, if that is even possible to get ML without Nav, I dont even know. (on the lots - It was hard to find cars with ML and if they had ML they seemed to all have Nav also)
but thats ok, as with my last ES, I'll just have Nav and not use it....
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 09:20 PM
  #6  
BBQapple's Avatar
BBQapple
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 909
Likes: 415
From: TX
Default

I think the bigger screen is higher quality though, wife has a 23 IS350 FS with the smaller non nav screen and the resolution and contrast are terrible compared to my ES big screen. Night and day.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2023 | 07:29 AM
  #7  
mikemu30's Avatar
mikemu30
Lexus Test Driver
5 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 9,559
Likes: 3,398
From: NJ
Default

Originally Posted by BlainePDX
The first time I used the navigation it came up with horrible directions. The most bizarre part was with this lovely bridge, which has a small intersection at each end. It shows a route crossing the bridge, but every time I got near the bridge it would turn me away from the bridge. The only way I could actually get onto the bridge was to do the opposite of its directions! Now I use Google Maps on Android Auto when I need real directions.
Is there a toll on that bridge? If so, your settings may "avoid toll roads".
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2023 | 09:27 AM
  #8  
BlainePDX's Avatar
BlainePDX
Driver
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 59
Likes: 18
From: Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by mikemu30
Is there a toll on that bridge? If so, your settings may "avoid toll roads".
No, there's no toll. The route did have us crossing the bridge, but every time we'd get near (from both sides!) it the navigation would tell us to turn the opposite direction.
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

 Brett Foote
story-4

GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 Reasons to Buy a Lexus TX 550h+ (& 3 Reasons to AVOID!)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Top 10 Lexus & Toyota Models of the 1990s RANKED!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Great Toyotas That Could Have Been Lexus Models

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 5, 2023 | 09:46 AM
  #9  
mikemu30's Avatar
mikemu30
Lexus Test Driver
5 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 9,559
Likes: 3,398
From: NJ
Default

Originally Posted by BlainePDX
No, there's no toll. The route did have us crossing the bridge, but every time we'd get near (from both sides!) it the navigation would tell us to turn the opposite direction.
Bizarre but it's software - garbage in garbage out. I've even had WAZE route me through a dead end street once.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
renauddj
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018)
1
Apr 2, 2023 09:54 AM
fdiphill
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018)
0
May 18, 2019 04:03 PM
giaruso
ES - 7th Gen (2019-2025)
0
Feb 17, 2019 04:17 PM
redeldo
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018)
1
Sep 17, 2009 04:30 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:07 PM.

story-0
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus/Toyota models with the lowest 5-year depreciation rate.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 12:19:06


VIEW MORE
story-3
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

The LC hasn't even disappeared from the Lexus lineup yet, and we're already seeing signs of an explosive market.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-06 09:25:02


VIEW MORE
story-4
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

Slideshow: comparing the pricings, specs, power, fuel economy, fun-factor, and features of the GX 550 Luxury+ and TX 550h+ Luxury.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-19 13:44:11


VIEW MORE
story-5
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

Slideshow: 9 best Lexus models you can buy for half price and 1 you should avoid

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-19 12:01:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

Here's everything you need to know about the latest NX.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-19 11:56:59


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Reasons to Buy a Lexus TX 550h+ (& 3 Reasons to AVOID!)

Slideshow: reviewing the 2026 Lexus TX 550h+ Luxury plug-in hybrid crossover SUV!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-05 19:04:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Lexus & Toyota Models of the 1990s RANKED!

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus and Toyota model of the 1990s ranked.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-04 12:35:11


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Great Toyotas That Could Have Been Lexus Models

Slideshow: 10 Toyotas that could have been Lexus models.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 11:44:33


VIEW MORE