Notices
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018) Forum for all 1990 - 2018 ES Models

Overhead Console Lighting

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:03 AM
  #1  
PDG810810's Avatar
PDG810810
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: MO
Default Overhead Console Lighting

Ok if you are old and blind like me and can't find the garage door buttons in the dark I came up with a quick (but a bit cheezy) fix.
I went to Radio Shack and purchased a key chain LED light (about .75 x 2.5 inches). I took the bottom key ring assembly off.
Open the cup holder door and take out the divider piece. Just glue the light (LED facing up of course and button to the outside) to the side of the divider. Use hot glue, silicone or similar to remove the light later if necessary.
Put the divider back in when the glue is dry and you are all set. This thing is so slim it won't even interfere with 2 cups in place.
So when it is dark, open the cup holder, push the little button and the overhead console gets flooded with light.
Works for me!
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:06 AM
  #2  
MD350's Avatar
MD350
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 1
From: MD
Default

I was just thinking the other day about why Lexus did not light up those buttons. I feel that is a design flaw. Thanks for sharing your invention!!
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:11 AM
  #3  
Ingram4868's Avatar
Ingram4868
Driver
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 179
Likes: 2
From: Sparks, Nevada
Default

I wonder if opening the garage door could become a voice command in the future?
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:18 AM
  #4  
Nextourer's Avatar
Nextourer
Lexus Champion
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,192
Likes: 3
From: none
Default

what a smart idea!

Heh... House, (or rather garage), open!
<door opens>
"welcome home, xxxx!"
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:32 AM
  #5  
LexBob2's Avatar
LexBob2
Lexus Champion
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,473
Likes: 247
From: Illinois
Thumbs down

Originally Posted by PDG810810
Ok if you are old and blind like me and can't find the garage door buttons in the dark I came up with a quick (but a bit cheezy) fix.
I went to Radio Shack and purchased a key chain LED light (about .75 x 2.5 inches). I took the bottom key ring assembly off.
Open the cup holder door and take out the divider piece. Just glue the light (LED facing up of course and button to the outside) to the side of the divider. Use hot glue, silicone or similar to remove the light later if necessary.
Put the divider back in when the glue is dry and you are all set. This thing is so slim it won't even interfere with 2 cups in place.
So when it is dark, open the cup holder, push the little button and the overhead console gets flooded with light.
Works for me!
I'm glad to hear that it's not just me who can't find these buttons in the dark! On our previous car (Avalon) the buttons were on the drivers side visor and were raised, making it very easy to feel/find without having to look for them. I too think it's an ergonomic oversight from Lexus.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:28 AM
  #6  
dreyfus's Avatar
dreyfus
Racer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 12
From: NC
Default

I agree, this was a design oversight that leaves us in the dark.

Ingram4868's idea of voice recognition for the garage door is an excellent one that I hope Lexus implements. Why haven't the car companies thought of this? It's such a great idea!

Good workaround, PDG810810. Clever, too.

As far as modding the overhead itself, I've pulled out the overhead and looked inside it for places to install an LED. It looks promising, but it's too far down on my priority list right now to get to anytime soon.

Last edited by dreyfus; Sep 11, 2006 at 10:32 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:25 PM
  #7  
PDG810810's Avatar
PDG810810
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: MO
Default

I have tried to get the overhead unit out but have been unsuccessful. What is the trick besides taking out the screws in the sunglass holder area?
Lining the button area will foil and putting an LED in there sounds like a pretty easy deal if I can find a good power tap.
I like the VR garage opener idea. Probably a standard feature on the 460!
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:08 PM
  #8  
dshahs420's Avatar
dshahs420
Pole Position
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
From: ma
Default

got pics????
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2006 | 11:00 AM
  #9  
dreyfus's Avatar
dreyfus
Racer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 12
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by PDG810810
I have tried to get the overhead unit out but have been unsuccessful. What is the trick besides taking out the screws in the sunglass holder area?
Like most everything else, it's a snap connection. There are two () shaped plastic retainers in the corners at the edge nearest the back of the car.

After removing the two screws in the sunglass compartment pry the overhead unit's rear (of the car) edge down until you can get a finger hold on it. It just pulls straight down and takes a fair bit of force. An L-shaped metal tool comes in handy here.

After you get it out, disconnect the wiring harness and unscrew the back from the unit. You'll see all the compartments for the various buttons, some with more covers that need to be unscrewed.

I don't think you'll need to line anything with aluminium foil. If you use a sufficiently bright LED or LEDs you should be able to wire it into the backside of the button or buttons and have the light leak through the spaces around the buttons.

I haven't found and don't think there is a switched power source that you can tap into where the LEDs will be on only when the driving lights are on. Maybe not even only when ACC is on. There is of course power you can tap into (7th from bottom left on the harness is power, 5th from top right on the harness is ground). Sorry, I don't remember the wire colors. Even with the very tiny power draw though, I personally wouldn't want an LED on ALL the time.

Aesthetically, it shouldn't be a problem leaving, say, a white LED on all the time as you shouldn't notice its presence around the buttons during the day. But at night you should see the outline of the buttons and thus have the illumination you want.

At least that is my theory. I haven't gotten around to playing with it yet as the overhead unit has a lot of LED mounting work to do to test it. At least you can work on the overhead unit away from the car and take it inside a closet or dark room with a battery to test out your LED placement.

If you futz around with it let us know what you come up with.

Last edited by dreyfus; Sep 12, 2006 at 11:06 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2006 | 11:21 AM
  #10  
toneman's Avatar
toneman
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 621
Likes: 0
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by MD350
I was just thinking the other day about why Lexus did not light up those buttons. I feel that is a design flaw. Thanks for sharing your invention!!
Yeah, I can't really understand the reasoning behind that either; is Lexus following GM's "decontenting" philosophy by "nickel and dimeing" in leaving out the small stuff in order to maximize profits? The funny thing about that is that on my '04 GMC Yukon XL Denali, the Homelink buttons are backlit; Lexus is supposed to be better than GMC, yet for whatever reason they chose not to backlight the Homelink buttons on the ES350? I mean, c'mon--I could see GM going the cheap route, but Lexus? Also--and I find this a bit surprising, considering that it's a Lexus--the ES350 Homelink buttons look pretty "cheap" compared to those on my GMC (small plastic ones on the ES vs. relatively larger rubberized ones on the Denali).

Here's another example of Lexus "cheaping" out--what's even more odd is that GM can offer a tire-pressure monitor system that can tell you exactly which tire is low on air, but the system on the ES350 apparently can't do the same? Sheesh--a car that has auto rain-sensing wipers (I guess Lexus must really think some folks are that clueless not to know when to turn on the wipers?), but can't tell you which tire is low on air?

Don't get me wrong--the ES350 is a great car, but it would seem apparent that Lexus has removed/left out a few small details...all in the name of maximizing profit. Another case in point--no wood trim in the glove box/passenger air bag area, unlike previous-gen ES models; why else would Lexus choose not to have any, if not to save costs on their end?

Last edited by toneman; Sep 12, 2006 at 11:30 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2006 | 04:17 PM
  #11  
Nextourer's Avatar
Nextourer
Lexus Champion
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,192
Likes: 3
From: none
Default

Not sure... I know Toyota did on the Camry. The Gen 5 Camry's Homelink buttons were nice rubber ones. The Gen 6 Camry's Homelink buttons are flimsy plastic ones that are 10x the size of the rubber ones. Why increase the size?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Joebeaver1
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
56
Jan 27, 2024 06:47 PM
rxsuperman
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
2
Apr 8, 2012 05:16 PM
luda42688
GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005)
11
Dec 20, 2011 01:51 PM
LIS350A
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
6
May 28, 2008 05:34 AM
TMitchell
GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005)
3
Apr 19, 2001 07:59 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:06 AM.