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Old Jun 5, 2022 | 06:30 PM
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hey team , just bought a 1997 es300 .... had the usual shift solenoid issue , ... but other than ran fine , this weekend i pulled the whole interior out except the dash , and also removed the old command start .the car was off the battery for most of it , but i shoed it on a few times to move seats etc to get to bolts , ....all finished up , put back togeather and now it wont start ... turn key to on , all lights come on , etc , turn , ... no starter engagement , ... the only lights that dim when i try the key is the clock and the radio , the dash lights stay as they were , .... also as a side note , there is no connection from the obd port to my bluetooth .... so im guessing there is some immobiliser deal stopping it from starting , looked online , and went to do the old paper clip reset in the obd 2 , well , we dont have enough pins in there to do it , we have the number 4 pin but not the 13th which you are meant to bridge .... any options , also my drivers side door lock is solid , ie cant turn the key , but unlocks /locks etc on the fob ...... cheers
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Old Jun 5, 2022 | 07:48 PM
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I'd try charging the battery first.
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Old Jun 6, 2022 | 04:40 AM
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battery has 13 volts ....
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Hello,

Did you have any issues with your starter?
Did the car ever have any aftermarket security system?
Do you hear the Fuel Pump whine when the key is in the Start position?

Start by re-seating the battery terminals, I've had something similar happen after my car sat for a winter, I tried starting it, heard a click, then saw a bit of smoke and everything cut out, along with my heart for that moment. Turned out that the terminal wasn't tight, so it just jumped off, the car started right up after re-seating it.

Next, check the voltage on the battery and on the starter itself while cranking ... attempting to crank the engine, see if it drops. If the battery is pretty old, plates start falling apart, so that while you will be able to charge it to 12V, there won't be much of a power output from it. In short, if the voltage dips below about 10V while cranking, you will likely need a new battery, you can test it at any car parts store. If the voltage does dip, but not below 10V, the starter may be jammed, preventing it from spinning.

If the voltage stays the same, take the Starter Relay out and use a light bulb in place of a Coil Side of a relay to see if the key actually does trigger the Starter, if not, there is a break in the connection between the Ignition Key to the Relay; if the bulb will light up, however, the relay is probably bad. To test it, try shorting the Switch Side of the relay to see if the starter would engage, just be sure to use a beefy wire for that, there will be quite a bit of current.

Hope this helps and best of luck!
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this weekend i pulled the whole interior out except the dash , and also removed the old command start .the car was off the battery for most of it , but i shoed it on a few times to move seats etc to get to bolts , ....

Please elaborate on this. Is command start the same as a remote starter? This may be the reason you're having issues.
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yes command start is the same as remote start , i have removed all the wiring so it is standard ..... it only has the anti theft in it . , and thanks to arsenii for the advice , the starter is my next go to , ...i have battery voltage at the starter .... will do tests when im not working ......
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Originally Posted by kiwiinsask
yes command start is the same as remote start , i have removed all the wiring so it is standard ..... it only has the anti theft in it .
Is it the factory Anti Theft system or aftermarket? If it is an aftermarket system, what does it lock?
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yup , the factory one
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Sounds like you have a wiring issue after removing the remote start system. That’s a big red flag.
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