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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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Can anyone tell me if tires should be rotated from front to back or front right to back left or front right to front left? I could also use some advice on what part of the undercarriage to rest the car jack stand on? Also does anyone know the torque spec for the lug nuts? Thanks
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 12:11 PM
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Ideally you should be consistent with how this is done.I try to do the fronts to back same side and backs to front opposite side.

I usually torque alum wheels to,85 ft lbs.

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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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You should only go front to back. Do not change sides because this will make the tire rotate in the opposite direction than before. I understand that this damages modern radial tires.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrAccord
Ideally you should be consistent with how this is done.I try to do the fronts to back same side and backs to front opposite side.

I usually torque alum wheels to,85 ft lbs.
According to Tire Rack, you are correct that the fronts should go to the rear and the rears should be placed on the front on the opposite side wheel. IOW, RR tire goes to front left and LR tire goes to front right... Here's a link...

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...180114234046:s
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 05:21 PM
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I just rotate front to back and don't cross sides.
I still get 30,000+ miles on a set
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 01:07 AM
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For the lowest levels of tire noise and vibration over the life of the tires the rotation pattern should be as shown every 5,000
miles (although for the absolute lowest levels the first two rotations should be at 2,500 miles).
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 05:01 AM
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The Lexus dealers I have used for some of the 5k tire rotations just go front to back without switching sides. The tire shop which put on my Michelin's go fronts to back but switch sides with the rears going on the front. 45k miles so far with them and no issues.
Not sure what torque the shops use but they are "good-n-tite" when I double check them at home .
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 06:17 AM
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Thanks for all replies!

I would still like to know the official torque specs for the lug nuts? Someone mentioned 85 lbs but just want to confirm. Thanks
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dommm
Thanks for all replies!

I would still like to know the official torque specs for the lug nuts? Someone mentioned 85 lbs but just want to confirm. Thanks

Just found this chart:
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/l...l-torque#lexus
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 07:53 AM
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ES 350 Owner's Manual says to rotate tires front to back and back to front same side - page 436 of 2016 manual and torque to 76 ft lb. - page 493.

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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Mac
ES 350 Owner's Manual says to rotate tires front to back and back to front same side - page 436 of 2016 manual and torque to 76 ft lb. - page 493.

Dave Mac
Thanks for that, I didn't know that info would be in the owners manual. Found my manual & as you said pages 436 & 493 are spot on.
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dommm
Thanks for that, I didn't know that info would be in the owners manual. Found my manual & as you said pages 436 & 493 are spot on.
Keeping the tires on the same side will prevent ride vibrations from developing, but not fix irregular tread wear patterns that cause tire noise. X rotations fix both issues as long as the owner is careful to adhere to the 5,000 mile rotation rule. So if you keep the tires on the same side you can expect a gradual increase in interior noise levels from the tires as they get older and older, but the ride will remain smooth and vibration free.
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