ES300 starter problem?
10-12-03, 10:24 AM
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thanks to all of u for the very helpfull info , i enjoyed the bantering back and forth,..it was all very informative, thats why i enjoy this board i can learn from just browsing thru the articles. 
10-03-11, 12:06 PM
#17
to all the above concerning the "clicking starter"-yes it is common after many miles but there is an easy and inexpensive repair for the Denso starters-you simply remove it and replace the contacts then sand the solenoid contacts smooth or replace it also-total cost for me was 5 bux-picked up a set of contacts at a local repair shop-smoothed the solenoid-good as new-that was 25,000 miles ago-still working like a champ! (Took about 45 minutes to do the job)
07-15-15, 08:32 PM
#18
Bump..
My car started acting strange a few weeks ago when i would turn the key. It would start on the first try but it was a rougher and longer start. About a week later, it clicked about 3 times before turning on. It seems to have a mind of its own. Sometimes it will start up good and other times, it clicks a couple of times. It runs perfect when it gets going, just starts stupid.
I had 2 mechanics both say the starter is going bad. Terminals and connections are good, Autozone tested my battery and alternator with no problems.
2000 es with 110k miles. Do OEM starters just suck? I cant believe its going bad so soon. Would an after market starter be a bad idea?
My car started acting strange a few weeks ago when i would turn the key. It would start on the first try but it was a rougher and longer start. About a week later, it clicked about 3 times before turning on. It seems to have a mind of its own. Sometimes it will start up good and other times, it clicks a couple of times. It runs perfect when it gets going, just starts stupid.
I had 2 mechanics both say the starter is going bad. Terminals and connections are good, Autozone tested my battery and alternator with no problems.
2000 es with 110k miles. Do OEM starters just suck? I cant believe its going bad so soon. Would an after market starter be a bad idea?
07-15-15, 09:21 PM
#19
On yours does it start initially more cranks, later ok when warm/hot?
Its probably contacts and plunger ($13) or $25 with solenoid. OEM Denso reman is better than AM new. Thus repair would be $8-25. There are some good new ones for some brands TYC, Bosch, NAPA. Also, Amazon seems to have some new ones now with no core return for about $75. That is another option; rebuild removed one for later.
I have always rebuilt, 15-30 mins after out of car. My last rebuild was in corolla after it went from 3 to 9-10 cranks at 130k miles. It is strong now.
Just *not* duralast from Autozone or one from pepboys.
You planning DIY? Watch this sample www youtube com/watch?v=cWm8j1SkUD8 for rebuild work involved. I think I saw another one but this will do.
Its probably contacts and plunger ($13) or $25 with solenoid. OEM Denso reman is better than AM new. Thus repair would be $8-25. There are some good new ones for some brands TYC, Bosch, NAPA. Also, Amazon seems to have some new ones now with no core return for about $75. That is another option; rebuild removed one for later.
I have always rebuilt, 15-30 mins after out of car. My last rebuild was in corolla after it went from 3 to 9-10 cranks at 130k miles. It is strong now.
Just *not* duralast from Autozone or one from pepboys.
You planning DIY? Watch this sample www youtube com/watch?v=cWm8j1SkUD8 for rebuild work involved. I think I saw another one but this will do.
Last edited by surgeon0; 07-15-15 at 09:36 PM.
07-15-15, 09:48 PM
#20
On yours does it start initially more cranks, later ok when warm/hot?
Its probably contacts and plunger ($13) or $25 with solenoid. OEM Denso reman is better than AM new. Thus repair would be $8-25. There are some good new ones for some brands TYC, Bosch, NAPA. Also, Amazon seems to have some new ones now with no core return for about $75. That is another option; rebuild removed one for later.
I have always rebuilt, 15-30 mins after out of car. My last rebuild was in corolla after it went from 3 to 9-10 cranks at 130k miles. It is strong now.
Just *not* duralast from Autozone or one from pepboys.
You planning DIY? Watch this sample www youtube com/watch?v=cWm8j1SkUD8 for rebuild work involved. I think I saw another one but this will do.
Its probably contacts and plunger ($13) or $25 with solenoid. OEM Denso reman is better than AM new. Thus repair would be $8-25. There are some good new ones for some brands TYC, Bosch, NAPA. Also, Amazon seems to have some new ones now with no core return for about $75. That is another option; rebuild removed one for later.
I have always rebuilt, 15-30 mins after out of car. My last rebuild was in corolla after it went from 3 to 9-10 cranks at 130k miles. It is strong now.
Just *not* duralast from Autozone or one from pepboys.
You planning DIY? Watch this sample www youtube com/watch?v=cWm8j1SkUD8 for rebuild work involved. I think I saw another one but this will do.
07-16-15, 07:54 AM
#21
Ok. It could be just loose contact. Maybe check connection. Maybe it was the fuel.
Most of the time with high mileage, it is a starting sign of inside contacts showing signs of wear. What is described there is the typical scenario of a failing starter. If it is intermittent then it could be other things like ignition switch (which might need more time and more checking on symptoms). Do a search using starter problems and see if something is similar.
When you start in hot weather or car already warm and it starts first time. When its cooler day it might take multiple turns. That is why I asked that. It might become more turns over time then you know. It can also be user error. Maybe it was not cranked long enough or its flooded or whatever.
You have to wait little longer and get better symptoms. Maybe the issue becomes more consistent.
Edit: I happened to click on one of "similar threads" below and this fits what I described: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-problems.html
Check some of other links here before you use the search function above.
Most of the time with high mileage, it is a starting sign of inside contacts showing signs of wear. What is described there is the typical scenario of a failing starter. If it is intermittent then it could be other things like ignition switch (which might need more time and more checking on symptoms). Do a search using starter problems and see if something is similar.
When you start in hot weather or car already warm and it starts first time. When its cooler day it might take multiple turns. That is why I asked that. It might become more turns over time then you know. It can also be user error. Maybe it was not cranked long enough or its flooded or whatever.
You have to wait little longer and get better symptoms. Maybe the issue becomes more consistent.
Check some of other links here before you use the search function above.
Last edited by surgeon0; 07-16-15 at 07:59 AM.
07-16-15, 05:12 PM
#22
Ok. It could be just loose contact. Maybe check connection. Maybe it was the fuel.
Most of the time with high mileage, it is a starting sign of inside contacts showing signs of wear. What is described there is the typical scenario of a failing starter. If it is intermittent then it could be other things like ignition switch (which might need more time and more checking on symptoms). Do a search using starter problems and see if something is similar.
When you start in hot weather or car already warm and it starts first time. When its cooler day it might take multiple turns. That is why I asked that. It might become more turns over time then you know. It can also be user error. Maybe it was not cranked long enough or its flooded or whatever.
You have to wait little longer and get better symptoms. Maybe the issue becomes more consistent.
Edit: I happened to click on one of "similar threads" below and this fits what I described: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-problems.html
Check some of other links here before you use the search function above.
Most of the time with high mileage, it is a starting sign of inside contacts showing signs of wear. What is described there is the typical scenario of a failing starter. If it is intermittent then it could be other things like ignition switch (which might need more time and more checking on symptoms). Do a search using starter problems and see if something is similar.
When you start in hot weather or car already warm and it starts first time. When its cooler day it might take multiple turns. That is why I asked that. It might become more turns over time then you know. It can also be user error. Maybe it was not cranked long enough or its flooded or whatever.
You have to wait little longer and get better symptoms. Maybe the issue becomes more consistent.
Edit: I happened to click on one of "similar threads" below and this fits what I described: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-problems.html
Check some of other links here before you use the search function above.
07-16-15, 09:27 PM
#23
Well, just wait longer so that you can pinpoint the issue. Notice when it starts normal and when it takes a few turns. There should be some consistency. You have some info now so make observations.
As for mechanic, he is not pulling a fast one. Most of them do not do this repair. It is faster and easier to replace with another unit. This is true of most components. Just post back later on.
As for mechanic, he is not pulling a fast one. Most of them do not do this repair. It is faster and easier to replace with another unit. This is true of most components. Just post back later on.
07-17-15, 12:52 AM
#24
Well, just wait longer so that you can pinpoint the issue. Notice when it starts normal and when it takes a few turns. There should be some consistency. You have some info now so make observations.
As for mechanic, he is not pulling a fast one. Most of them do not do this repair. It is faster and easier to replace with another unit. This is true of most components. Just post back later on.
As for mechanic, he is not pulling a fast one. Most of them do not do this repair. It is faster and easier to replace with another unit. This is true of most components. Just post back later on.
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