Does anyone know the exact difference between the 1996 and 1997 engines? From what i have found they have the same bore and stroke, but somehow the 1997 puts out 3 more horses. I need to know because i'm looking to run boost on my 1996 and TRD makes a supercharger for the 1997 and they specifically say it will not fit on my engine. However, considering how close the engines are, i think with a few modifications it can be done and just wanted to know if anyone had any input. Thanks in advance

 

I didn't know that TRD made any superchargers for our cars... but if ytou found one, and you can mod it enough to make it work, that's great. Keep us updated on what you do

 

You are correct, TRD does not make any superchargers for our cars, but they do make one for the V6 camry and the engines are exactly the same

 

They both share the 1MZ-FE, however I think the ES's engine is tweeked to give more HP. Remember that the ES's 1MZ has a 10.5-1 compression ratio. This topic has come up before and many have said that a TRD supercharger will work in a Camry, but will not work in a ES. If you can make it work, more power to ya. Just make sure that you don't pop $$$$$ for a charger- then find out it won't fit.

 

Im a buddy of 01M3s and was going to be the one helping him do the supercharger. What is specifically differnt between Gen 2 and Gen 3? Camry vs. ES? It cant be that much. What kind of compression ratio does the Camry have? If we are running higher than them then it is a problem. If we are lower then we should be a little better off. The pictures look too similar. Does anyone make any pistons/rods that will fit the ES? What kinda similarities does the IS and ES have...any at all?


RP

 

The 1mzfe non vvti version of the ES300 can be supercharged its just that the EBC(electronic boost controler)Hook ups might not be that easy.One Gen3 Camry was able to use the supercharger but he had problems with the EGR tube not being long enough ,so this causes the egine to stall when his engine has the AC and at idle. Just remember no Toyota/lexus dealer will want to install this S/C on your ES since they are full of crap.Also if you dont hook up the EBC you might have problems with your tranny since there should not be boost between gears and in first gear.The extra Hp that you see from the ES300 is only due to exhaust changes between the Camry and ES300 look at the Solara that has an extra couple HP from that too.The most extreme thing I seen is a MR2 owner that used a ES300 1mzfe and a standalone ECU to use a S/C in his Gen2 MR2.

 

That is some great insight and detail CAMRY RR....I have one more question for you since you seem to know a lot about this and I also want to say that I like that pic of your supercharger.
But.....The 1997 ES does it have the vvti 1mz-fe. and I see you have a 97 Camry I have a 97 ES if the extra horses are just an exhaust thing is the compression ratio different between yours and mine?.......And if so or if not would I be able to supercharge my ES?....without problems??

PLease respond in detail... Thanks

 

I see CAMRY RR you said the EBC hookups may not be easy but is it possible and doable is my main question....gettin someone to do it may be an issue but CAn it successfully be done you think???

And what is the big deal with the EBC hookups why are they so difficult??

 

If you got a VVti engine the s/c will not fit since the intake plenum is not the same.But if you 1mzfe is a non vvti version like on my car the only problem will be the ECU being able to compensate for the boost and extra fuel that it will demand.The EBC can be left off but I would recomend one big tranny cooler and frequent tranny fluid(synthetic) changes since the boost between gears and in first gear will add stress to the tranny.There is also a thing with the EGR tube fitting since it might be the wrong lenght.all these small problems can be fixed but what you should do is find a shop in your area that has done custom stuff like this before.

 

Well i just talked to one of my friends who has a 1997 ES300 and its the same motor as my Camry nothing is changed.Same compresion and even most of the parts like the exhaust can be swaped.Only problem is the Ecu not being exactly the same and might require some custom wiring to make the EBC work.

 

THanks Camry RR

The info is right what I was looking for seems there is hope then
So the 1997 is not VVti ...cool....Those guys at TRD need to cut the bull**** and act like ES300 's can be Supercharged also....It sounds like a chip problem to make it work with the ES's ECU.....I'll investigate in my area for a shop that might be able to assist me but your info was definately appreciated........

 

Anything for a fellow Lexus/Toyota owner tell me how it goes.

 

If the Weapon-R ECU was used and the EGR/ECU tubes or whatever were custom made would it work?