Youtube recommended this video, the guy has a very rational approach to the EV craze.

I really like his channel, though, I do think the video had some questionable "math" at times and also some idealistic points being made. Having said that, I agree with the core point he made, which, if I took it away correctly, is that EVs are not a silver bullet to solving pollution or climate change. There are a lot of other factors influencing our environmental impact, and futhermore, saying ICE drivetrains are "caveman" drivetrains is pretty ignorant in the context of... well, the real world.

EVs are a new way to make lots of $$$ for lots of people.
None of this is to save the environment.

The raw materials needed to manufacture these EV cars will create significant issues and continued reliance on foreign countries to meet supply.

At the first glance his math seems legit, even seemed conservative and optimistic most of the time. Certainly nothing like the funny math EV shills present, which is completely detached from reality.

I still think the video paints a worst-case scenario for EV ownership and charging. At one point he points out it took "a century to build the infrastructure and roads" and all that time just to raise the median ICE horsepower from 26 to 128. Perhaps true, but it's not like all those roads will suddenly become obsolete. EVs still drive on those same roads so we won't need to build everything from scratch again. And the slow increase in horsepower isn't really pertinent since EVs deliver the power different and improves drivability with full torque at zero RPM.

I agree, EVs isn't the answer for all use cases but it can still serve much more of the population than many are willing to admit. In densely populated metro areas with only street parking available, I've seen cities replace antiquated coin meters with solar-powered credit card meters. Now, imagine if they replaced those same meters with the equivalent of a Tesla destination charger or compact mobile unit. You would then combine the metered parking with charging convenience, either free or paid. Existing parking garages can also add compact charging units without having to converting any gas station space.

EVs are riding a wave of innovation and the infrastructure is quickly catching up. I didn't expect so many manufacturers to catch up this quickly to Tesla. What is offered in the market today by Hyundai/Kia, PoleStar, Ford, and other manufactures was something I didn't expect to occur until at least 2025. We are not ready for EVs to be the sole mode of transportation for a household but people can practically have an EV and ICE vehicle and that already is a huge achievement for EVs -- one car for local errands and another for long trips. Since the European annual kilometer average is half of the U.S., that actually shows people don't need to drive that far and maybe an EV is actually better/more cost effective for them. Charging is still a big consideration but the global charging infrastructure is only continuing to grow, not shrink.

That guy thinks oil and battery materials are the same both are mined, used then no longer exist in their current form.

My friend sent me this video.

We must dig up 500,000 lbs of earth to make a 1,000 lbs battery.
It takes 100-300 barrels of oil to manufacture a battery that holds only 1 barrel of oil in energy equivalent.
Just manufacturing the battery produces 10-40 tons of CO2.
There just isn’t enough mining to produce batteries for that many people and their cars.

No wonder TMC is struggling to supply their bZ and RZ with adequately sized battery packs.

Hence, hybrids will be around for some time yet.
Full electrification is still some way away.

I don't know things like that, which is sourced from a far-right conspiracy-theorist channel, does much to support those arguments.

Got any actual data?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

This is the most anti EV forum I've ever been on, it's odd. Also the sources used to trash EV's are highly suspect.

so? drilling under the gulf of mexico (for example) is no picnic either.

ridiculous as a battery unlike burned oil/gas, can be recharged.

didn't watch the video but a battery once made, eliminates the production of fossil co2 AND can be recycled.

and every decade they've said the world will run out of oil 'soon'.

and tesla shipped 1/3 of a million EVs last quarter. seems toyota (and ford, etc) have inadequate supply chains / manufacturing capacity..

i agree with these 2 points, but not for the reasons stated.

This video mostly sums up my thoughts on this situation, I do not see the savings or honestly the stated goal yet since most will get a new car every 50-70k miles anyway. I've said many times I do not see any reason to spend 2-5x as much for the same tier of a product that has really poor support.

Challenges aside, this is our future at some point. https://aptera.us/