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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 12:37 AM
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Tbh - I have never used the frunks on my Tesla, so fortunately is not a deal breaker for me. Maybe that will change with the ginoromous one on the Lightning.
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Don't feel bad cuz I've only seen under the hood of one so I'm still learning too.

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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I have yet to see one of these on the roads or any new 4series GranCoupe, even regular coupe is rare. The grill is big turn off for most buyers I think.

Haven’t seen new iX SUV either.
I see a ton of 4 Series around here.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
They have a rear-drive model that gets 300 miles. 335 horses are still a lot. Not everyone needs the most they can possibly get lol.

You said there are conversion kits... so that means if someone were to purchase this, they can remove that hideous grille and replace it with one from say a 2019 4-series?
Matt D’Andria, of Car Cast podcast, is a critic of what he calls the bucktooth grille.

He was talking about a relatively inexpensive conversion kits to make the grill look more like a conventional grille. There will also be some presumably more expensive kits coming like this article shows

https://www.motor1.com/news/449729/b...rket-makeover/

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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 08:56 AM
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Those will not be inexpensive. $3k+
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 11:13 AM
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When did you order the car this year? End of year delivery is very optimistic especially M50. I ordered in March this yr I don’t expect I’ll get mine this yr. Which dealer did you ordered from I’m also in Bay Area. Dealer I ordered from has been very quiet, every time I asked something no respond. You will also likely get 2023 MY and BMW already hiked the price by $1400 for M50. Some options were also removed from E40 trim, 360 cameras and driver assistance pro features are not available on E40. Fortunately M50 still has them.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I see a ton of 4 Series around here.
the new one?
I definitely see them but not like previous gens - E46, E92, F32.
Also the convertible versions are MIA, maybe seen a handful if that.

Maybe its this look driving ppl away:



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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
the new one?
I definitely see them but not like previous gens - E46, E92, F32.
Also the convertible versions are MIA, maybe seen a handful if that.

Maybe its this look driving ppl away:

Yeah no doubt it's going to drive people away. They'll probably warm up to it over the years though, just like the spindle. You see something long enough and it softens your stance on what you previously thought was horrendous.

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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 03:53 PM
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I ordered in late April from BMW of Mountain View. They estimated about 8months, but im honestly not in a hurry.

How about yourself?

I tried calling all the dealers in Cali but they only have i4s for demo...

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When did you order the car this year? End of year delivery is very optimistic especially M50. I ordered in March this yr I don’t expect I’ll get mine this yr. Which dealer did you ordered from I’m also in Bay Area. Dealer I ordered from has been very quiet, every time I asked something no respond. You will also likely get 2023 MY and BMW already hiked the price by $1400 for M50. Some options were also removed from E40 trim, 360 cameras and driver assistance pro features are not available on E40. Fortunately M50 still has them.
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Those will not be inexpensive. $3k+
You think that much? Seems awfully high for just a little body work.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
the new one?
I definitely see them but not like previous gens - E46, E92, F32.
Also the convertible versions are MIA, maybe seen a handful if that.

Maybe its this look driving ppl away:
Yeah I see a lot of the new ones around. One of my clients just got one.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
You think that much? Seems awfully high for just a little body work.
Because it's not just as simple as slapping on a bumper and calling it a day. The bumper has loads of sensors mounted on it, including the radar for the adaptive cruise control molded right onto the beaver teeth.

These upgrade kits I'm seeing aren't just for a new bumper, they also have sensors built into them like the radar to replace the ones removed with the old grille. And those sensors aren't cheap. This isn't taking into account the costs associated with installing the sensors or running software compatibility checks on them to make sure your car runs properly, not to mention the strong possibility of this electrical job voiding the warranty or your new Bimmer.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Because it's not just as simple as slapping on a bumper and calling it a day. The bumper has loads of sensors mounted on it, including the radar for the adaptive cruise control molded right onto the beaver teeth.

These upgrade kits I'm seeing aren't just for a new bumper, they also have sensors built into them like the radar to replace the ones removed with the old grille. And those sensors aren't cheap. This isn't taking into account the costs associated with installing the sensors or running software compatibility checks on them to make sure your car runs properly, not to mention the strong possibility of this electrical job voiding the warranty or your new Bimmer.
Nice explanation cuz I was wondering why so much too but when you put it that way it makes sense.

Figured high cost due to being a specialty item but with added sensors and software like you say, I can see it.
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Originally Posted by LucasCoop
Matt D’Andria, of Car Cast podcast, is a critic of what he calls the bucktooth grille.

He was talking about a relatively inexpensive conversion kits to make the grill look more like a conventional grille. There will also be some presumably more expensive kits coming like this article shows

https://www.motor1.com/news/449729/b...rket-makeover/
great post.

samples from that article, looks a bazillionty times better...





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Old Jun 12, 2022 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
You think that much? Seems awfully high for just a little body work.
Yeah, its the whole front end of the car. Its $2,000+ just in parts, then everything has to be painted and installed.

Repainting the bumper on my LS was $1,000 and that didn't include replacing the bumper itself.
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Old Jun 12, 2022 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
great post.

samples from that article, looks a bazillionty times better...





Words can't possibly describe how much better the red one looks.

BMW wanted to be all bold and progressive, but their new grille just looks horrendous.
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