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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:07 AM
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I feel like BMW's current design theme is just getting busier and busier. They've ditched simple design elegance in favor of creases, tacked on bits, etc.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:09 AM
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The other crazy thing about this refresh...it makes the grille look too small!
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:16 AM
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Sales wise I doubt that this new model will cost BMW any sales at all. They'll most likely increase sales with the new model. Not sure if it's my cup of tea or not, but I'm not a candidate for this size of SUV anyway.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:17 AM
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I feel like BMW's current design theme is just getting busier and busier. They've ditched simple design elegance in favor of creases, tacked on bits, etc.
Its what i call “gimmick” styling like the Predator grill for Lexus.

I just noticed they did away with the shifter to button controls - wow that is definitely a no go for me. All these changes make the driving experience more inline with sitting at a desktop at work.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:22 AM
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Borrowed the shifter from the iX

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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Sales wise I doubt that this new model will cost BMW any sales at all. They'll most likely increase sales with the new model. Not sure if it's my cup of tea or not, but I'm not a candidate for this size of SUV anyway.
No doubt the X7 will continue to be a sales success.
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We've got a few more details on the Alpina XB7, and one image of the latest product from BMW's newest go-fast division. Starting with that image, Alpina didn't obsess over its rework of the standard BMW X7 M60i front fascia that the XB7 is based on. The sole change we can see is a restructured design for the lower intake, the framing here done in a contrasting color to the bodywork. Along the sides, a set of coachlines sweep back from the front wheel arch, through the door handles to the rear lights. The real Alpina giveaway is the wheels. A set of 21-inch Alpina Dynamic rims come standard, on high-performance summer rubber measuring 285/45 all around. An optional quartet of 23-inch forged alloy Alpina Classic wheels in the erstwhile tuner's 20-spoke design can be had in Anthracite, shedding seven pounds per wheel compared to the smaller set. The bigger wheels wear Pirellis sized 285/35 in front, a whopping 325/30 in back.

Both options hide Brembo brakes with blue, four-piston calipers adorned with white Alpina lettering. An optional high performance brake system upgrades to lightweight drilled discs.

The 4.4-liter mild-hybrid twin-turbo V8 up front makes 621 horsepower and 590 pound-feet of torque, an addition of eight ponies over the pre-refresh version. It takes just four seconds to hit 60 miles per hour, half of a second faster than the M60i, and 14.9 seconds to achieve 124 mph. Engine tweaks include a revised engine management system, a larger and more efficient radiator and transmission cooler, Alpina specific intercoolers, and external engine oil and water coolers. To make the three-row runner more efficient at putting that power down, Alpina fettled the suspension with new struts, dampers, and stiffer rear axle bushings.

Inside, the stock trim is Myrtle wood, but piano lacquer and natural walnut anthracite can be had. Besides that, plenty of blue and green highlights in places like the digital gauges, gear selector switch, infotainment display theme, and stitching on the Lavalina leather seats set this apart as an XB7.

We're still not sure about pricing, but ordering for the U.S. market is expected to start in September, with first deliveries happening in December.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don't get it at all. This makes the IP on the W223 S Class look great...

And the terrible "X7" interior ambient lighting on the dashboard? So garish...
Hey they are just reminding you what you are in, kinda hard to tell with some brands....
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 01:12 PM
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Glad to see they keep the display curved.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 01:49 PM
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Is that Portimao Blue Metallic? Never expected to see it on an X7. Edit: Hmm, maybe it's a new color? It doesn't look like Phytonic Blue Metallic or Tanzanite Blue II Metallic either. Or maybe it's Portimao.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 03:02 PM
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Glad to see they keep the display curved.
They finally killed those useless laser lights. It's about time.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 03:10 PM
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Why is it called a M60i now if it has the same exact specs from and engine and power perspective? Makes no sense to me.
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Why is it called a M60i now if it has the same exact specs from and engine and power perspective? Makes no sense to me.
M50i to M60i is the same reason why the 6-Series is now called the 8-Series, they can charge more $$$
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
i think that looks really bad. the giant square cornered screen up high, ugh.
the 'broken' dash line.

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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 05:17 PM
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It’s pretty ugly to me. I definitely prefer the pre-refresh look.
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