Before I start this thread, I want to mention that all the EV related threads have seemed to get very contentious, off topic, and created some personal animosity between members. I really don't want that to happen, and I'm asking everyone who participates to please be respectful, stay on topic, and just be generally mindful that we are all enthusiasts. Secondly, this is not exclusively an EV thread, it's not about the benefits of EV over ICE or vice versa or which is better. The pros and cons of owning EV have been discussed many times, so I'm not going to rehash what's already been discussed over and over. What I am doing is laying out my personal road map for car ownership in the future. With that, lets begin.

A Hybrid approach

The hybrid approach I am talking about has nothing to do with buying a Prius, or a RAV4 Prime or any other hybrid. I'm personally not one of those who would buy a hybrid, although if I was buying a truck for towing I might consider one in that case. What I am talking about is owning both ICE and EV, the same way one would owns a sports car you drive on the weekend doing canyon carving or taking to the track, a truck you use to tow a boat or trailer etc., and a commuter car for all your normal day to day driving such as work, shopping. An example of this is one of my co-workers who collects 90's M series BMW's. He has two M5's, he mostly drives them on the weekend, a Honda Odyssey as the family car, and an old beat up Corolla that's his commuter to save on gas and wear & tear on his M5's.

My current ownership

Today I own the following cars for these uses: 2010 IS350 Sport, which is now my occasional/weekend/trip car, 2013 Toyota Sienna, which is our family/trip car, 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV, my wife's daily work commute/grocery and errand car, and a 2022 Polestar 2, my daily work commuter/errand car. I understand not everyone can own multiple cars because of space constraints, budget reasons etc so this is strictly my personal ownership road map.

Future ownership- 2023 and on

By 2023-2024 there will be a lot more EV's being offered, and ranges and charging times will be much better. I'm sure by that time 500 miles and 20 to 25 minute recharge times will be more the norm, as well as bigger SUVs and possibly Minivan replacements being available. At that time I will be replacing my Sienna with a BEV, but I will hold on to my IS350, or possibly I may replace it with a GSF or IS500 as my weekend car. The EV's will be that offset for a V8!

What's your future car ownership roadmap? A combo of EV/ICE, just EV, or just ICE? Please share!

 

Cool thread. I have no EVs at this exact moment but definitely will in the future. I foresee my garage consisting of a mixture of ICE and EV until big SUVs and convertibles (a dying segment of cars really) are well-represented in the EV space.

 

Go big man, get an LC500 or GSF and stage 3 it!

My plans are ICE flapships as dailies due to cost, comfort, speed, and ease of use. My wife stole my old 430 and intends to run it to 350k miles, I have a lowish mile 460 now as mine that I'll keep around until I get bored of it. It will likely move to my wife once I move on. My current "fast" car is a 15 A8 4.0 stage II with 600ish HP and 3.1-3.3 second 0-60s, it's however starting to get boring and I'm considering replacing it with a stage 2 S8 instead to get solid 2.5 sec performance and much better top end past 150mph. My dilemma is I'm not sure if I want to have my fast car also be my daily since the Audis do not have the refinement of a full-size Lexus. It's hard since they are so easy to work on I'm not even that scared of driving an S8 a bunch since the stuff that is known to break is very quick to fix.

Due to this I'm planning on a viper as a sports car and will set it up for around 11-1300hp on pump gas for weekend/fair weather use. I know I'll have more fun with that than trying to make a car like an S8 do two jobs really well. Might as well throw practicality to the wind and have an actually fast car....

I'll only consider an EV when the costs are better than ICE for me and they no longer have their main drawbacks.

 

I once made a comment on the Savagegeese review of the LC500 something to the effect that I would buy one one day from a dead wealthy Floridian. Bit, hopefully that won't be you....oh wait, your younger than me

 

Best type to buy from. My 430, 460, and A8 were all from west palm beach lol! The latter two cars lived on the same street funny enough....the 460 was probably a beater car for the owner of the house it came from.

 

The good thing about wealthy retired snowbirds that migrate to Florida for their retirement, they don't put a lot of miles on their vehicles. But one problem is that their 20 year old mistresses end up getting the cars

 

I've been toying with the idea of getting an LS460 or LS600 as a very comfortable daily driver car.
How is your 460 holding up?

 

I've never seen his car, but I can tell you they last forever. I would buy a 10 year old LS460 with no hesitation unless it was listed as salvage or was in a major accident. You can't break them if tried

 

I generally take the view that I will figure out what to get next when the time comes. We'll continue to be a multiple car household, as we have other properties and a boat etc that we need to tow from time to time, and we're going to beopen to anything that we like as and when we want to (or have to) make a change.

In the near term I have a Bronco being built the last week of Feb and arriving next month and I was able to place a confirmed order for an F150 Lightning so we'll have those to factor in but as for what comes next, we'll just see what we like when the time comes.

 

Thats pretty much how I view them as well, however, I've read that some folks had issues with the dash on the early LS460s, but not on the LS600s, so I was wondering how the dash is holding up and whether its an issue. When well cared for, they also look really nice too.

 

That may have been the sticky dash issue, which the 2nd Gen IS had issues with. Lexus changed mine in Jan 2020 as it had an extended 10 year warranty. If the dash was replaced, you would easily be able to find out by the VIN number and creating a Lexus account

 

I have a Lexus account from leasing my RX, is this what you're referring to?

 

No, you would actually create this account on lexus.com. It's where service/recall history would be stored

 

I've only seen one Bronco in the Bay Area so far, maybe when you get yours I'll see you and wave!

 

It's an interesting question. I fully reserve the right to return to this thread tomorrow, or even later today, to change my answers...

2019 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited Platinum - wife's daily driver and main family car. This is my least favorite car in our stable. Nothing wrong with it, and it does a lot of things great - lots of power, good gas mileage, great features, seven seats, it's reliable, and comfortable. We have almost 10k miles on it and it's our second one, the previous one being a 2016 of the same trim. My wife will absolutely not part with having a hybrid. She loves it. It's worth more now than it was nearly 3 years ago when we bought it. I would happily take an EV in this spot, since it's mostly used for around town driving and short trips, but I don't see any current 3 row BEV CUVs/SUVs that would work, though I suspect that will soon change. If I were to swap it out today, I'd get a 2022 Volvo XC90 T8 plug in hybrid. The 32 miles of electric range would appeal to my wife and take care of at least 90% of her driving. I would enjoy the 455 horsepower.

2020 Lexus GS350 AWD F Sport - the car that doesn't get used. I love this thing, but it seldom gets driven. I've had this one for a year and a half and it still has less than 2k miles on it. I love everything about it. If I were to part with this car, I'd either just leave that spot in the garage empty, or go in a different direction. Something fun, like a manual GR86/BRZ, a gently used GS F, a Supra or even an LC500.

2021 Toyota Tundra 1794 TRD Off Road - absolutely love this truck. Bought it so I could have "one last V8". I drive this almost daily. In the 8 months we've owned it, I've put on about 3600 miles. I normally drive it over the GS in the winter as it's already outside and dirty. This is our default road trip vehicle, as the room and comfort is amazing. It pulls our travel trailer with absolute ease, so we use it heavily in the summer for camping. It's also making frequent runs to the nursery or Lowe's. I'm a bit on the fence with this one. My only complaint is the gas mileage, but I don't sweat that too much. I fully expect I'll trade it in for a new Tundra with the hybrid drive. The only question is timing. For now, I suspect I'll use this Tundra for another 3-5 years then make the switch.