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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
problem is when you take 15 years to update your design, by the time your late design is production ready its outdated compared to the rest of the market. Guess gotta wait 15 years for IRS?
Toyota already had it in 2008
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Sure, I agree. My old Explorer had 2WD, 4WD auto which was multi-mode full time you could use all the time, and 4WD low which had a locking transfer case.

That setup is perfect IMO, gives you all the options. You can switch from 2WD to 4WD Auto and back at any speed in any situation. 4WD low you had to stop and put it in neutral.


They used to call that "Shift-on-the-Fly." I agree that, for most SUVs, it is the ideal set-up....and as for the low range, the fact that you had to stop and put it in Neutral first was usually no big deal because low-range is rarely used (or needed) unless off-road.

But, of course, full-time and switchable-electronic 4WD/AWD is not the cheapest to produce and manufacture. That is why automakers resisted it for so long in so many vehicles, and why, for decades, until recently, all you could get in Jeep Wranglers was the Part-Time Command-Trac 4WD, without a center differential. As has been extensively discussed in this thread, the part-time systems are still found in some pickups and ruck-based vehicles, notably from Toyota.


Hilarious the all new state of the art Sequoia doesn't live up to a vehicle from 27 years ago in this regard
I understand what you are saying by using the term "hilarious", but I don't necessarily see it as humor.....that's just the mark of cost-cutting with some truck-manufacturers.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 11:24 AM
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I'm about to go crosseyed from all the 4WD talk. No "auto" mode is inexcusable, it's 30 year old tech...or close to it.

Rear area is a mess, I also wish this came with the base engine bc I would skip the hybrid personally. Hybrid is powerful but it's not being really raved over, MT or C&D said it's nothing like the difference between the old 4.6 vs. 5.7 in the old Tundra. Nor would I want the hybrid complexity, even Toyota.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 11:27 AM
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I'm about to go crosseyed from all the 4WD talk. No "auto" mode is inexcusable, it's 30 year old tech...or close to it.
Did you know the 1st and 2nd Gen Highlander had full time awd? Some RX too

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Did you know the 1st and 2nd Gen Highlander had full time awd? Some RX too
Actually yes... RX at least.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:19 PM
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LOL this just popped up on my Facebook, to buy the part. This is what I've got, I believe my gen Yukon came out in 1999 and I'm pretty sure the later versions of previous gen had it too. One thing to note is that you can tow my GMC on all 4 wheels, while you can't my LX.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Actually yes... RX at least.
GM used to have full time 4WD. In 1970s. You could choose either full time or part time

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LOL this just popped up on my Facebook, to buy the part. This is what I've got, I believe my gen Yukon came out in 1999 and I'm pretty sure the later versions of previous gen had it too. One thing to note is that you can tow my GMC on all 4 wheels, while you can't my LX.

Cadillac Escalade had a Auto 4WD back in 1996 Chevy GMC as well.



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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:17 PM
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On the F-150, 4A is available on the Lariat and above(at least on the 2015-2020 models, not sure about the current gen).

So mine does not have this feature.



Trucks with the 4A have a selector like this
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Sure, I agree. My old Explorer had 2WD, 4WD auto which was multi-mode full time you could use all the time, and 4WD low which had a locking transfer case. That setup is perfect IMO, gives you all the options. You can switch from 2WD to 4WD Auto and back at any speed in any situation. 4WD low you had to stop and put it in neutral. Hilarious the all new state of the art Sequoia doesn't live up to a vehicle from 27 years ago in this regard


I just caught this.... no option to put in 4WD High like the GM and newer Ford examples posted?
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:54 PM
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My 2003 Ford Explorer had this setup 4x4 Auto, 4x4 High, and 4x4 Low

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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I just caught this.... no option to put in 4WD High like the GM and newer Ford examples posted?
No, I never saw any reason to. 4WD Auto got me wherever I needed to go.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
No, I never saw any reason to. 4WD Auto got me wherever I needed to go.
Right, but that's a strange omission there. There are theoretical situations where you would want 4HIGH on.
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I just caught this.... no option to put in 4WD High like the GM and newer Ford examples posted?
Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
My 2003 Ford Explorer had this setup 4x4 Auto, 4x4 High, and 4x4 Low

Thanks for this. I never knew such a transfer case exist. Learn something every day.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Thanks for this. I never knew such a transfer case exist. Learn something every day.
There seems to be no 2WD option on that one.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Right, but that's a strange omission there. There are theoretical situations where you would want 4HIGH on.
If given the choice between a 4WD Auto option and a 4WD High option, I will take the Auto.
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