EV charging in the US is broken — can it be fixed?
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So far, that's (probably) been due mostly to one specific vehicle.....the Tesla Model 3, more so than any other. But it will be interesting to see how much the electric F-150 Lightning will contribute when it goes into production.
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People want good EVs, Tesla can make them in volume. Ford will sell every F-150 Lightning they can make. Cybertruck has over 1 million pre-orders every one made will sell instantly. Look at this way, if the Model 3 had a gas engine hardly anyone would buy it.
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Not true. They sell every Model Y they make and its probably going to eclipse Model 3 this quarter. Mach E has also sold out and the Hyundai Ioniq has a waitlist. Taycan by Porsche's estimation is very successful. People want GOOD EVs and manufacturers are scrambling now to make them.
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Not true. They sell every Model Y they make and its probably going to eclipse Model 3 this quarter. Mach E has also sold out and the Hyundai Ioniq has a waitlist. Taycan by Porsche's estimation is very successful. People want GOOD EVs and manufacturers are scrambling now to make them.
Charging these EVs is a complete disaster especially if it’s not a Tesla.
Taycans are collecting dust sitting at Porsche dealers with $799 lease deals on them yet there are Zero allocations to get even a base 911...i wonder why.
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Would that happen without the Federal $7,500 credit plus various state credits? Answer is NO.
Charging these EVs is a complete disaster especially if it’s not a Tesla.
Taycans are collecting dust sitting at Porsche dealers with $799 lease deals on them yet there are Zero allocations to get even a base 911...i wonder why.
Charging these EVs is a complete disaster especially if it’s not a Tesla.
Taycans are collecting dust sitting at Porsche dealers with $799 lease deals on them yet there are Zero allocations to get even a base 911...i wonder why.
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Would that happen without the Federal $7,500 credit plus various state credits? Answer is NO.
Charging these EVs is a complete disaster especially if it’s not a Tesla.
Taycans are collecting dust sitting at Porsche dealers with $799 lease deals on them yet there are Zero allocations to get even a base 911...i wonder why.
Charging these EVs is a complete disaster especially if it’s not a Tesla.
Taycans are collecting dust sitting at Porsche dealers with $799 lease deals on them yet there are Zero allocations to get even a base 911...i wonder why.
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They've increased their prices noticeably in 2021. Take a look. They have a supply issue at this point.
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They've increased price significantly almost weekly since they are sold out. it is what it is.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2021/05/an...model-3-and-y/
They've increased price significantly almost weekly since they are sold out. it is what it is.
They've increased price significantly almost weekly since they are sold out. it is what it is.
Like everything Tesla it’s all artificial, the Chinese demand is not there. Not profitable, as these cars are being sold for far less than what they cost to make. Tesla if they priced them for profit, sales would be super weak. Tesla started off 2021 with price cuts.
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Just wait till the big $5000 price cuts like they did last year. I think the S was cut $5000.
Like everything Tesla it’s all artificial, the Chinese demand is not there. Not profitable, as these cars are being sold for far less than what they cost to make. Tesla if they priced them for profit, sales would be super weak. Tesla started off 2021 with price cuts.
Like everything Tesla it’s all artificial, the Chinese demand is not there. Not profitable, as these cars are being sold for far less than what they cost to make. Tesla if they priced them for profit, sales would be super weak. Tesla started off 2021 with price cuts.
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What are you talking about? Tesla has no more tax credits to utilize. It stopped in Jan 2020 last year and they SOLD EVERY CAR THEY MADE. They sold out of Q2 production in early May meaning all units they produce are already spoken for. There is excess demand right now...look at Mach E and Ioniq waiting lists. Sorry but EV sales have doubled and the constraints isn't demand...its suppply.
The demand in other parts of the world is due to government policies not true market demand.
In US - ppl are not enthusiastic about EVs unless its a Tesla.
My local Ford dealer has 5 Mach Es outfront and 20 in-stock lol.
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Tesla worldwide demand is strong but its not US driven.
The demand in other parts of the world is due to government policies not true market demand.
In US - ppl are not enthusiastic about EVs unless its a Tesla.
My local Ford dealer has 5 Mach Es outfront and 20 in-stock lol.
The demand in other parts of the world is due to government policies not true market demand.
In US - ppl are not enthusiastic about EVs unless its a Tesla.
My local Ford dealer has 5 Mach Es outfront and 20 in-stock lol.