you're in a particularly argumentative and judgmental mood i see. if tiger told the chauffer to drive over 100mph to get somewhere faster, the driver SHOULD be fired if he does so because it would be reckless.

no it's not true "to some extent" the car is brand new on the market and i'd bet a lot that he'd NEVER driven one before this tournament. and just because cars have pedals etc. in no way means one is automatically familiar with how a car drives barreling down a highway.

that is just a horrible comment. do you blame kobe for that too?

all car sponsors at golf tournaments loan a featured vehicle to any pro who wants one. same for bmw, cadillac, mercedes, lexus, genesis, etc. and if tiger comes out and says the car saved his life or is in general praising of it, that is a gigantic win for genesis. he probably won't though but either way, i see nothing negative to come out of it.

except pga pros are not allowed to use golf carts on tournaments. you really might want to take a pause before posting any further uninformed judgments and snarky comments.

 

Golfers drive the courtesy cars alone all the time. I don't know if you follow or watch golf at all, but it's very common to see players getting out of their courtesy vehicles alone - that applies to the top guys and the journeymen. They don't get around in shuttles and team busses, or with private drivers. Clearly, even though TW can afford a chauffeur, he prefers to drive himself.

TW was from the L.A. are so I'm sure he wasn't completely unfamiliar with those roads and he probably travelled the same route at least the day prior for the first day of filming.

The one thing that concerns me about the incident is that they are saying he was not impaired yet there were not signs of braking. I believe Golf Channel said no toxicology tests were done as they did not seem necessary - so we'll never know whether he was impaired or not, I suppose.

 

If he was impaired, it will come out and we will know. It was 7am, so I'm good with giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Makes sense to not do a test.

 

As a long time TW fan, I am as well...

 

They don't just automatically test for DUI if you have an accident. Then need cause to suspect someone is under the influence. None of us have any idea what condition officers encountered Tiger in when they arrived, so I'm not sure why it would "make sense" to any of us. I would hope, if they elected not to perform a test, that it was because they didn't see any signs of impairment, and not because the driver is Tiger.

 

This guy walked away and was helping others after getting creamed from behind by a 18 wheeler.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/39350/...-texas-pile-up

 

They should take that Toyota to top gear or that new show....I bet the Toyota still starts

 

People walk away from crashes where the car is ripped in half, single accounts are not a reliable way to judge vehicle safety.

 

Jill has made some good points, in several different posts.

Well, each boss is different, but, yes, many of them would fire their chauffeurs for those reasons.

In fact, that is one of the theories on how Princess Diana passed away in that wreck in downtown Paris. Neither she nor her Egyptian boyfriend were wearing belts when it happened. Their hired-bodyguard was riding with them....and, of course, it would normally be his job to make sure they are buckled up and safe (he's responsible for their lives). But if they said no, they weren't going to wear them.....well, she was Royalty, and the bodyguard has to accept her decision or lose his own job. In fact, the only person in that car who DID survive (albeit with serious injuries) WAS buckled up.



Incorrect. It IS true, although different vehicles have different handling-characteristics. But, in general, whether he had driven one or not beforehand makes little difference. Steering wheels steer, and brake pedals brake, whether it is direct-mechanical/hydraulic action or by-wire. Most vehicles that I do full-reviews or test-drives on, I have to sampled before...but I don't flip them over.

We also need to wait and get the full-report on what caused the accident, and why. Given the fact that a celebrity/sports-star was involved, I suspect that the NTSB might even handle the investigation, like they did with Kobe's helicopter.

​​​​​​​The comment was not meant to "blame" anyone, but to illustrate that simply hiring a private helicopter is no guarantee of safety. In fact, part of my work, when I was at the FAA, was to deal with the results of aircraft accidents and make charting-recommendations. We got regular (unabridged) copies of the NTSB investigations.


On that one, I basically agree. If he survives, and particularly if he recovers enough to play golf again, Genesis will be able to use this as PR for their safety-features



They might need to make an exception. Ever hear of a waiver?

Two things. First, I disagree that my comments were uninformed. Second, you are a moderator, and have the authority to delete comments you think are improper, which is something I don't.

 

Well that is good Let's just hope he plays again

 

I think it’s time to lock this thread

 

I have confidence in both the doctors and in a higher-power.

 

Why? The story is not over...

Just imagine if he never plays again...that would be sad

 

That's why I suggested, above, that, if worse came to worse, a waiver on the golf-cart-rule might be a good idea.