People living in apartment buildings, and I am talking about big cities like NYC, Boston, Chicago..ect would have to go to another brand. It’s simply impossible for those people to charge those cars.

 

It’s the same situation in Los Angeles and many major cities: most apartment complexes, even those with a guaranteed parking space, have little to no charging infrastructure. Usually not even a standard 120V outlet in or near your spot.

Further, if you rent an apartment of any kind that is street parking only, how do you charge up when you get home from work? You are LUCKY to find an open spot close to your front door on the side of the street that isn’t getting street cleaning at the posted 7am sharp time the next morning.

When you need to get back to work the next day and commute, only a DC fast charge option the night before prior to getting home or the same before you can get to work will do.

If you’re lucky enough to rent a house then maybe your fortunes will be different since you may be able to negotiate a 240V home charger installation with your landlord.

For all of those above situations there need to be many more public charging stations where people normally park and on the side of streets. Naturally with many cars charging at the same time it will take everyone longer to charge up in time for work in the morning.

Also, city and county requirements for rentable accommodations need to require the installation of charging stations for residents.

All homeowners with their own parking spaces should have no issues getting a fast home charger installed on site.

In New York City not everyone owns a car but for those places where people do own cars and park them the same needs apply.

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The infrastructure for public charging as well as the power grid itself needs a major overhaul up to through 2035.

 

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...th-new-concept

Lexus to preview design direction for EVs with new concept

Viknesh Vijayenthiran February 1, 2021 Comment Now!
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photosCurrent Lexus models have some of the biggest grilles of any vehicle in production, with the design, known as the spindle grille, having grown to become a signature trait of the brand.

But battery-electric vehicles don't require huge openings at the front so Lexus has decided to rethink how it can redefine its brand-defining grille as it prepares to rollout EVs.

We'll get a preview of the new look for Lexus' future EVs via a concept set to be unveiled this spring. Lexus revealed a new teaser shot of the concept on Monday, which looks to show the vehicle's rear. An earlier shot showed the front of the concept, which looks to feature a sealed-off spindle grille forming the front fascia. We've already been given a taste of the design direction with 2019's LF-30 Electrified concept.

The new concept's reveal will mark the arrival of a new generation of Lexus design, with the first production model shaped under the new design principles to also debut in 2021. The production model is expected to be a large crossover SUV similar to 2018's LF-1 Limitless concept, and it may not be an EV.

Lexus currently sells a battery-electric UX compact crossover SUV outside the United States but has been quiet on its plans for EVs here. What we do know is that future EVs (and hybrids) from Lexus will feature an all-wheel-drive system with highly precise torque vectoring made possible via the use of electric motors.

 

At least we'll know that Lexus will have better quality control over Tesla.

 

There were significant power outages in NYC yesterday, this happens often throughout the year. I don’t see any investment being made to improve the power grids. ConEdison and PSE&G are the main utility companies here and they can barely keep up when there is snow or wind.

I literally had no power for close to a month after Hurricane Isiahs, most ppl in my area have generators bec there are so many trees here so outages are common.

I don’t see leadership to build the infrastructure to make EVs a reality for everyday Joe.

 

When you read articles like this, you wonder if Lexus is in fact going all electric any time soon - https://www.wsj.com/articles/toyotas...ed-11608196665

 

Remember I help people sell and buy condos and manage apartment buildings. There are absolutely more and more charging stations going into condo lots, condos allowing owners to install chargers at their spaces etc. This will accelerate as more and more people have electric cars.

You will also find businesses installing chargers at more and more spaces, and once charge times come down you can have all the charge you need while you grocery shop. Once there is money to be made charging peoples BEV, you will be able to charge them all over the place.

10-15 years from now or less, you will get a full charge in 10 minutes.m

Teslas can now. As technology improves all BEVs will be able to.
Nobody is saying you wont have

They will be able to charge on the street, and other places they park their cars. They'll be able to quick charge in 10 minutes the way they refuel now.

You guys are all looking at this through the lens of how it is now. We're talking 15 years down the road here.

 

It's Jalopnick. Take it with a grain of salt. Let's see where Lexus is in 4 years, as their pressroom has claimed all their vehicles will be electrified meaning hybrid and EV by 2025.

 

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Have you been to NYC?
The street parking is crazy - most existing buildings are old COOPS not new Condos.
A lot of these old buildings don’t even have parking garages.

Where are you going to get the land to put these EV chargers and who is going to pay for it? I personally have never seen a Tesla charging station even except next to their store.

Not to mention all the Public Housing / NYCHA buildings?

Land in NYC / LA etc is expensive and comes at a huge premium- I don’t see any way that these charging stations can be built in the necessary scale to make EV a reality by 2035. It takes 5yrs to get approval for anything and then another 5 to get funding 😂

 

I bet its mostly hybrid. It seems Toyota thinks BEV isn't the future as the CEO seems against it. I bet the entire lineup is hybrid and will only have 1 BEV as an experiment. I hope they develop a more performance hybrid in their sport offerings. The current hybrids are dreadfully slow.

 

I have been to NYC many times. How do you fuel your cars now? You will be able to charge your EV in the same manner and just as quickly. Nobody is saying that EV chargers are going to be free to use, they will be built by people who want to make money off of them.

The market will drive ingenuity here.

 

Although the entire country isn't NYC, you still bring up some good points.

 

Guys, take yourself back to 2000 and describe to 2000 you the technologies we have today, 2000 you would say the vast majority of what we take for granted in 2020 was impossible or unfeasible ever. Technology is moving faster today than it was then, we're in the middle of the technological renaissance.

I remember on this very forum people saying we would never have self driving cars, well that tech is largely here now. Driving a BEV is going to be a non issue 15 years from now, it will be totally normal and commonplace.

 

nailed it. Range and charge time. Once those are resolved electric cars will take over. In North America


south of the border the move to install charging stations has yet to take off so ICE’s will be around for a long time in other jurisdictions

 

I actually don’t believe this. There are 23,000 man hours of labour in a barre of oil. Nuclear is the o lay energy with more stored power. Battery technology will have to be revolutionized dramatically to make this happen. It’s like MPG. In The 70’s states hey hit the pinnacle of fuel efficiencies now they lighten the blinker switch to try and eek out more mileage as they have maximized the efficiency of engines. Battery technology will be the same. It at some point will be impossible to store more energy in a battery or get more power out of an electric motor and with all the brain power currently working on it we may be there now or very very close.

range anxiety won’t be resolved. Energy has its limits