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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 05:41 AM
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I see a lot of people are using plastidip instead of paint on their rims? Why is this? I have a stock set of rims that i want to cleanup,(Curb rash) I'm old so i was planning on sanding/filler/paint. Is the plastidip just because it is removable later? I will use the stock rims next year for snow tires.
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:30 AM
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honestly for me, plastidip was easier, less prep - if I painted I would've had to sand or scuff the rims to get the paint to stick - with the plastidip, its just clean and spray.
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thank you for the input, was there a specific product you used?
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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thank you for the input, was there a specific product you used?
to clean the wheels? no, washed them then wiped down with alcohol; sprayed about 5 coats of actual plastidip brand, then applied armor shield ceramic coating (https://avalonking.com) to make them shiney and easy to clean (otherwise its a matte finish that's very hard to keep clean).


I also plastidipped the chrome bumpers on my truck to match the body color paint (white), again topped with ceramic coating and still good after 1 year.

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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:20 PM
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my paint is peeling so badly on the top surfaces.

I'm thinking about going the rustoleum route.

car paint is expensive.
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 08:22 AM
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Plastidip just looks cheap, I wouldn't put that on anything other than a beater car. Even if done well, it has a cheap plastic matte look that I hate and up close its like that fading rubber look. Just get your wheels powder coated. It's around $400 and very durable.
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kense
Plastidip just looks cheap, I wouldn't put that on anything other than a beater car. Even if done well, it has a cheap plastic matte look that I hate and up close its like that fading rubber look. Just get your wheels powder coated. It's around $400 and very durable.
I wasn't sure what color so I used the plastidip --- oh and NO MATTE FINISH - I topped the plastidip with ceramic coating for a nice gloss look...cost me about $7 a can for each wheel, already had the ceramic stuff. I've pprepped and painted a few sets of wheels myself, still chip pretty easily, plastidip does not do that.

also re powdercoating...from an M3 forum...
cons of powder coating are choosing the wrong vendor that has no clue what they're doing with your wheels. Most guys are after the cheap price, but that cheap price burns so much longer than reaching into your pocket to get the job done correctly the first time, with lost time, crappy finishes, or lost product.

All (newer, perhaps 1995+) wheels come from the BMW factory in Dolgolfing in a 7 stage marriage of liquid paint and powder. It is very difficult to remove, however, many "powder coaters" will just shot blast it off, using small metal beads. While it does the job, what do you think those metal spheres are doing to your wheels and the metal that lies beneath the coating while some untrained guy blasts away? It isnt pretty. Being recognized by the courts as powder coating experts, we've written many affidavits to support plaintiffs in an attempt to become whole after powdercoater xyz ruins their wheels. They must be stripped chemically prior to powder coating.

Go visit powder coating facilities. Are their floors clean? Are their shelves clean? Are their employees well presented or disgruntled? How much employee turn around do they experience? This will answer how often they have to train people how to do the work, as well as how well they run their organization. If you have any question at all, run, do not walk, and find someone else that makes you feel comfortable. After all, these are your BMW WHEELS (our garage is full of them, both of the auto and motorcycle variety).

I'd be happy to post threads from around the country on powder coating horror stories, as well as threads from around the country on powder coating success stories. They are out there. Its up to the consumer to do their diligence when investigating a powder coating applicator.

Anyone can buy a gun and a box of powder and put the powder coating hat and proclaim "I am now a powder coater!"... but it doesnt work like that.

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Originally Posted by bagwell
I wasn't sure what color so I used the plastidip --- oh and NO MATTE FINISH - I topped the plastidip with ceramic coating for a nice gloss look...cost me about $7 a can for each wheel, already had the ceramic stuff. I've pprepped and painted a few sets of wheels myself, still chip pretty easily, plastidip does not do that.

also re powdercoating...from an M3 forum...
Speaking solely about the product and not the person applying it - powdercoating is undeniably better than Plastidip if you're looking for a permanent solution. An automotive painter could probably make Plastidip look pretty good, but it wouldn't hold a candle to actual paint IMO.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
I wasn't sure what color so I used the plastidip --- oh and NO MATTE FINISH - I topped the plastidip with ceramic coating for a nice gloss look...cost me about $7 a can for each wheel, already had the ceramic stuff. I've pprepped and painted a few sets of wheels myself, still chip pretty easily, plastidip does not do that.

also re powdercoating...from an M3 forum...
No matter what that guy say's Powdercoating is always better than Plastidip. I've never seen a messed up powder coat. Maybe if you go to some trash back alley painter.
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kense
No matter what that guy say's Powdercoating is always better than Plastidip. I've never seen a messed up powder coat. Maybe if you go to some trash back alley painter.
LOL, not saying at all that's not the case, just saying if you don't have your color choice confirmed, or dont have the $600 or $700 sitting around for powdercoating then plastidip can work for some peasants (like me!!!!!!)
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