I have an itch for something faster and am torn between three cars, I want something a little more aggressive for a daily but don't want to give up too much comfort.

Options are a Charger widebody Scat pack, used GSF, and Camaro SS 1LE with the latter being lower in the list since it's not a very comfortable car. I'm having a hard time deciding since the Lexus is a nicer car but the others are much faster and would be new vs used

All cars in question will be tuned and switched to long tube headers

 

Charger, hands down. GS-F is fun but not that fast. The 6.4L chargers are monsters on the street.

 

You always want something aggressive. That's been obvious every time you post.

(Just teasing you)

If you check out a Camaro (any Camaro, not just the SS), pay particular attention to outward visibility, and if you find it acceptable or not. Camaros (and, to slightly lesser extent, Challengers) are well-known for their peep-hole visibility and slit-windows. If Smokey comes up behind you with red/blue lights flashing, that officer will be a lot less likely to give you a speeding ticket if you readily see him/her out the back, and pull over as soon as possible instead of making her or her follow you for several miles trying to get your attention.

You mention comfort.....as far as ride-comfort goes, a Camaro is somewhat on the stiff side, particularly the SS, but not excessively so, say, what you would find in a heavy-duty work truck.

The Charger is a nice car, and, according to Consumer Reports, has improved quite a bit in reliability recently since they've had it (and the Hemi engines) in production so long. R/T and SRT models can be expected to ride a little more firmly than more civil V6 models, but the car's large size (it is considered a full-size sedan today), long wheelbase, and hefty weight will all help smooth things out some.

 

I love how the Charger widebody looks but interior is 💩 with tiny Nav screen.
Why not look at used E63 and M3/M5 - luxury rockets.

GSf would be my pick out of 3 you mentioned for a daily but they are hard to find used as there were so few sold.

 

Oh I'm well aware of the issues with the camaro lol! I've driven several but figured I would include it on the list since it's in the same price point and a very capable car.

I've not been in a charger newer than 2017 so your comment that quality is up is a good thing to hear. The domestics are hard to go back to after trying out Lexus for that reason alone lol

The other thing I'm thinking about is if a new car warranty is worth anything to me personally but I don't think I can find a widebody outside of warranty anyway.

 

Having worked on the E63s/other gen M3s and 5s I'm good lol, very nice cars when they are working but I don't want the headache when they are not.

The screen/interior is a very good point and my main hesitation with the whole car

 

It was starting from a pretty low bar, though....for years, Dodges ranked at or near the bottom in reliability. Chargers were no exception...only recently have they shown significant improvement. CR thinks (and I tend to agree) that it is mainly because of the long-continutation of their production, giving the company a chance to iron out many bugs. The huge amount of power that advanced versions of the Hemi put on their components doesn't help, either. That's why Ford, for a while (I think that has changed now) would not sell the 600-700 HP Super-Snake Cobras with a factory warranty...you paid your money and took your chances.

 

I'm not concerned about mechanical stiff breaking within reason but stiff like windows, body feature, electronics, etc would not be something I want to deal with. If they are doing better in those areas it would push me further toward that side. That and interior fit/tightness

 

Out of the three you mentioned I would pick the GSF hands down. It’s just a better car than the others especially at the same price even though it is used vs. new.

 

Here's a recent video comparing the GS-F to a Scat Pack Charger:

 

That was a good video, makes it really hard since that's my line of thinking as well. They are so close performance wise it's the other things that matter.

I'm also seeing the GSF offers a lot more driver assistance items like lane keep ETC that are options or not offered on the dodge. Those would be wasted for what I want to do with the car and I'm seeing what the default state would be, I would prefer the car to start with all those systems off.

 

if you’re coming from Lexus standards of fit and finish, you would probably be disappointed with Chrysler’s offerings outside of the performance numbers they boast.

 

Irony is I started with Chrysler and only recently tried Lexus.....

Oh and I just found a trustworthy looking supercharger for the GSF! Oh boy this is dangerous

 

I had a Chrysler 300srt before I bought my GS. I had a heads/cam/longtube/gears setup and it was making about 485 whp and tq on the 6.1 engine. With the 6.4, you can easily get to 500whp with heads/cam and tuning. I installed a wideband 02 sensor and tuned remotely, it was fantastic. It was a 2006 with 155,000 miles by the time I sold it and everything was in great shape. From the exterior and interior to the plastics in the engine bay, the materials held up very well and I had no issues due to build quality or materials. I had no real issues in my ownership period of 8 years.

I was looking for something more economical for a daily driver and I looked at Lexus after buying a few for my wife. I had raced a few GSF/RCF back when I used to go to the track and blew them away so they were never on my radar as a fast car. I was sold after driving the GS though. It wasnt even a GSF or GS350, but a 200t.

The handling and feel was so much better. I had suspension mods on the Chrysler but the GS just blew it away in stock form. I got tired of the V8, it was getting 13mpg and I never really could use the power on my commute. I wanted something different without a performance focus.

The Charger will be much easier to mod to big power, either in NA or FI form but the GS will be a much better place to spend your time and better to drive when not using the throttle. The Charger is fundamentally the same since the initial LX chassis design from 2004. The issue is with putting down the power, with steeper gears I widened the wheels and added 315/35 Michelin PS4s but it still was handful. The widebody should help a bit but the chassis design is a bit limited in that respect.

The LX is just a big heavy car and I like the packaging of the GS much better, from both the feel behind the wheel to fitting in my garage / parking spots and maneuverability in tight spots.

 

F10 M5 and current gen F90 M5 are solid cars as long as u get a well maintained one that was not tuned.
F8xM3/4 platform have been bulletproof with tons of tuning etc.

Not sure about E63 but the amg V8 engines are stout.
What issues have u experienced with them?