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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 09:24 AM
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Front sort of looks Volvo. The rear overhang does not look right, too long. Those are some very ugly wheels.

It’s good that Hyundai is still committed to making a large luxury sedan under the Genesis brand name I will be very interested to find out more details if Genesis has a hybrid option on the way for this model

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The rear overhang does not look right, too long.
it's the suvificiation of everything.

by making the back big you get better rear head room, a larger trunk, or maybe it's a hatch?

Those are some very ugly wheels.
ha, yeah, not wonderful, but there will likely be options.

It’s good that Hyundai is still committed to making a large luxury sedan under the Genesis brand name I will be very interested to find out more details if Genesis has a hybrid option on the way for this model
i would say zero chance of hybrid option, but i expect an ev version, which i also expect will be DOA due to not using a dedicated ev platform, and competition from lucid, mercedes, etc.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 10:01 AM
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Seriously doubt it has a hatch. I'm eager to see the finished model as I can't really make out whether I'm going to like this car or not.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Seriously doubt it has a hatch. I'm eager to see the finished model as I can't really make out whether I'm going to like this car or not.
more importantly, even if you love it, would you buy it?

for not much more i'd get an EQS450.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
more importantly, even if you love it, would you buy it?

for not much more i'd get an EQS450.
Good point. The answer is no. I would 100% buy a GV80 or GV70 if I was in the market for those segments though.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Good point. The answer is no. I would 100% buy a GV80 or GV70 if I was in the market for those segments though.
GV70 is pretty great. GV80, i don't really like the looks and they should offer an air suspension option.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
more importantly, even if you love it, would you buy it?

for not much more i'd get an EQS450.
I'd be very surprised if this goes over $100K like the EQS. And as far as competition goes the EQS has the S-Class to cannibalize it lol.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
Probably not a popular opinion around here, but I absolutely hate the styling of all of the current generation Genesis models. They all look too heavy and old man looking. I thought the first generation G80 and G70 looked nice.
I’m similar to you.
I thought only the hot selling last gen Hyundai Genesis and first gen G80 looked nice.
The rest I thought were poorly styled with poor consumer response.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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Speaking of older Genesis, here's the very very first G90...

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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
I'd be very surprised if this goes over $100K like the EQS. And as far as competition goes the EQS has the S-Class to cannibalize it lol.
i'm sure mb is happy for customers to be choosing between an s-class and an eqs.

this new g90 will need to do something very special.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i'm sure mb is happy for customers to be choosing between an s-class and an eqs.
Depends on whether this dual-product strategy actually gets them more customers or if it'll just cannibalize S-Class sales- and that's assuming the EQS sells in decent numbers (EV battery supply issues still afflict every manufacturer in the foreseeable future).

this new g90 will need to do something very special.
To do what? Even if this thing is as good as Rolls Royce Phantom it'll never outsell an S-Class, nor was it ever intended to. It will however never die so long as the South Korean government continues to exist (see above for its 20 year old Grandpa), because unlike Lexus, Genesis was smart enough to make their flagship vehicle the symbol of their home country.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this does kick the S-Class's *** on every objective level. The new generation isn't much of a leap from the last model, mainly because Mercedes tied it down to showcase the EQS.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
unless it's something spectacular, i'd says it's DOA in the u.s. i'm afraid to say.
I totally agree with you bit.

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Bet you it'll outlive the LS500.
The old G90 debut with 4k and last year sold 1.559k; the 5LS debut with 9k and last year sold 3.6k.
Whatever the G90 sells, the LS will do better.
The LS may sell poorly, but the G90 tends to do worse.

Hats off to the S Class and the 7 Series.
The 7 Series has literally replaced the LS as the main sales competitor to the S Class.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

this new g90 will need to do something very special.
Genesis really needs a proper dealer network for the brand to work properly. The fact that it is a sedan will hamper the US sales.
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
The old G90 debut with 4k and last year sold 1.559k; the 5LS debut with 9k and last year sold 3.6k.
Whatever the G90 sells, the LS will do better.
The LS may sell poorly, but the G90 tends to do worse.
Last year it sold 2K, but that's beside the point. It's actually quite embarrassing that the LS with Lexus's large dealer network is barely outdoing the G90 that has next to no dealer network lol.

The LS has no future because the U.S. is its core market and it's tanking at its core market. Nobody is buying LS's in Japan or other countries in substantial amounts to save it. Same can't be said about the G90 which last year sold 10K units in Korea alone- and I bet that number alone is more than the LS's entire global sales for that year.
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Last year it sold 2K, but that's beside the point. It's actually quite embarrassing that the LS with Lexus's large dealer network is barely outdoing the G90 that has next to no dealer network lol.

The LS has no future because the U.S. is its core market and it's tanking at its core market. Nobody is buying LS's in Japan or other countries in substantial amounts to save it. Same can't be said about the G90 which last year sold 10K units in Korea alone- and I bet that number alone is more than the LS's entire global sales for that year.
Definitely, Genesis has been doing rather well from what I see with all the new GV80s and G80s I see on the road and limited dealer network. And the last gen G90 was a little half-assed with the facelift, but I bet this new upcoming gen will take the role of what the LS used to be. And from the spy shots, it's shape and body style looks proper, upright, and imposing as the LS should've been.
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