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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
These are the two cars, what do you guys think?
from everything i've read of yours on here, you've already made up your mind. this is a bit like mmarshall 'deciding' between a buick and anything else when we already know what's going to happen.

i don't think the a8 front overhang is much bigger than the s-class.

fwiw, i'd get the a8 because there's so many s-class on the road. the a8 is special and amazing imo. not that the s-class is bad at all, it's awesome too. my neighbor has an s550 (v similar to what you're looking at) and i was surprised it's no quieter than my g90 and my g90 has a bigger back seat).

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
If you want to be more low key - have you considered Genesis G90?
yeah he could get a g90 and save enough for one of his kid's first year in college

Originally Posted by SW17LS
G90 is a little too low key
the new one? LOL

The S Class has a presence about it that is a lot classier than my LS, as much as I love my LS and feel its an extremely classy car.
presence = people know i'm a baller when i pull up.

I haven't 100% decided to do this yet, but I am at a crossroads where I need to decide whether to keep the LS or not. 45k miles, if I'm going to keep it I need to get a warranty before 50k and then obviously buy it out. Have to see how the repair turns out too.
i'd bet you're not keeping the LS

And I don't know if thats really true about reliability. I know several people with older S Classes, both W222 like this one and W212 cars, and all of them have been fine.
my neighbor's 3-4 yr old s550 now has over 100k mi. on it (he's a commercial realtor!) and no issues at all. he LOVES that car.

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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 06:03 AM
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If you can find an S560 in a good color with better wheels, it's the clear winner here.
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 06:25 AM
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I'm in the minority and prefer the Audi's exterior vs. the S Class.. To me it's got a buttoned down understated look that is stylish and eye catching at the same time. When I was shopping for our 5 Series I considered buying another, new gen, A6 which had the new all digital dash which I wasn't too sure about. Like any new tech I'm sure there's a learning curve.

The MB is a no brainer. It's an S Class...

The new gen 7 Series V8 with the right color and wheels is compelling to

IMO you can't go wrong with any of them. But it's not my money.
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I'm on Team Audi here. Current MBs don't do anything for me. That said, you have been very positive on the S for a while now with the only hang up being the price. If the price is right, definitely go with the S
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Personal preference but I don't do FWD biased cars and never cared for Audi's styling. My choice would be S560 or BMW 750.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
from everything i've read of yours on here, you've already made up your mind.
Not necessarily. He may (?) be discussing it with his wife, even if he doesn't make that part of it public like he did with the Pacifica.

this is a bit like mmarshall 'deciding' between a buick and anything else when we already know what's going to happen.
^^^ Not entirely untrue, but somewhat overblown. Just because I like the Buick nameplate doesn't mean that I don't seriously consider anything else. I was also close to ordering a Lexus UX and Lincoln Corsair....but they would have been more money, and the UX is not necessarily any more vehicle. Just because I have money, and can afford to pay cash, does not mean I believe in tossing it away.

fwiw, i'd get the a8 because there's so many s-class on the road. the a8 is special and amazing imo. not that the s-class is bad at all, it's awesome too. my neighbor has an s550 (v similar to what you're looking at) and i was surprised it's no quieter than my g90 and my g90 has a bigger back seat).

yeah he could get a g90 and save enough for one of his kid's first year in college
There you go, Steve...you might have a credible third option.







Old Aug 20, 2020 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
S class. I've been on CL for a handful of years and you've always posted favorably about the S class. I believe the main thing keeping you in an LS instead of S has just been a slight concern about the impression it may give people given your line of work.

I think you'd enjoy the A8, but I think in the back of your mind you'd regret not getting the S class. I don't think you'd give the A8 much more thought after buying the S class.

Edit: The only other vehicle I remember hearing you describe as favorably as the S class over the years is a Range Rover - would you ever consider that as a potential LS replacement? Since you lease, it may be a great option as one of the only downsides to a RR is potential reliability issues down the road. Hard to find something with more sophistication and presence at that price point than a Range Rover, IMO.
I'm going to go look at a Range Rover again. A lot of that is you get a much better deal on a sedan.

I do have a strong connection to Lexus, I've had a Lexus the better part of my driving years so its a big change. Theres a lot that goes into it...I truly may stay with my LS.

Originally Posted by signdetres
If you can live with the new S-Class right around the corner and having a brand new "old S-Class," get the S-Class. That would be my own personal reservation. It's still one of the most advanced (and beautiful) vehicles to ever hit the road, new S-Class around the corner or not.

It sounds like the A8 strikes your logical side (this one makes more sense to get) whereas the S-Class strikes your emotional side (but this is the one I really want).
The new one around the corner doesnt bother me, I like this one.

Originally Posted by patgilm
Get the S class, you have always wanted one or at least liked them and now is a good time. As for the tires, I ditched the run flats in my BMW and set them aside for when I turn the car back in so that is what I would do.

As for your accident, that sucks. Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago at a stop sign, a young girl hit me and I had to get a new bumper. Nothing big and not as bad as yours but certainly annoying.
Did you notice a big change when you ditched the RunFlats?

Yeah its such a hassle.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
from everything i've read of yours on here, you've already made up your mind. this is a bit like mmarshall 'deciding' between a buick and anything else when we already know what's going to happen.
Haha, truly I have not decided. The S Class is what I emotionally want, but I also want to have the quietest best riding car there is, and the Audi may be that. Could very well be the normal tires on the A8.

i don't think the a8 front overhang is much bigger than the s-class.
It is, if you look at the space between the front wheel and the front of the front doors, its much smaller in the A8, the car definitely has a FWD look about it, which I don't like.

fwiw, i'd get the a8 because there's so many s-class on the road. the a8 is special and amazing imo. not that the s-class is bad at all, it's awesome too. my neighbor has an s550 (v similar to what you're looking at) and i was surprised it's no quieter than my g90 and my g90 has a bigger back seat).
They really are all very similar, one may be slightly quieter in one circumstance vs the other, but ride and drive are the big differentiator. Without an air suspension the G90 will only ride so similarly.

yeah he could get a g90 and save enough for one of his kid's first year in college
Whats the fun in that? LOL

presence = people know i'm a baller when i pull up.
Pretty much,,,but that goes two ways

i'd bet you're not keeping the LS
I really may

my neighbor's 3-4 yr old s550 now has over 100k mi. on it (he's a commercial realtor!) and no issues at all. he LOVES that car.
It depends on your clientele. My clients are pretty middle class, my average sales price is in the mid $500s. If I were running around dealing with $2M houses all the time it would be different, but thats not my business.

Originally Posted by Lend0
If you can find an S560 in a good color with better wheels, it's the clear winner here.
I actually prefer those wheels. I want the smaller wheels vs the 20s. The 20s do look good though.

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Not necessarily. He may (?) be discussing it with his wife, even if he doesn't make that part of it public like he did with the Pacifica.
No lol. She got me to get another Pacifica, I'm getting what I want.
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 07:44 AM
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Get both
Get both
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Do both
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I personally am a fan of the new A8 V8 and think it is almost-as-good as the S-class (if the numbers are significantly lower, do the A8). But you can't go wrong with the S560 either way.
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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 08:00 AM
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I think your LS repair will come out well.

Between the A8 and S Class, I vastly prefer the exterior of the A8 (despite FWD proportions), but the interior of the S560. But when you do decide to go for it, I think you should get the S Class. First of all, it's the car you've long aspired to acquire, and second, if you get an A8, but when that lease is over you want to go to an S Class, this version of S560 that you like won't be available, and you'll either have to go in a new direction or go with the incoming S Class that it seems that you don't care for. You will have lost your opportunity to lease a new version of this S Class.
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 08:11 AM
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I recently saw this episode of Motorweek on Motor Trend TV. You may have seen it already but it's from their Drivers Choice Awards for 2020. I agree, the front overhang is a bit distracting vs. other cars in the segment.


"Audi A6

Everyone may have a different definition of luxury; and that’s what makes the Audi A6 so spectacular, and our choice for Best Luxury Sedan. It doesn’t matter what expectations you have for a car, the A6 fulfills them. Classy without being over the top, sporty without feeling like a pure sports car, powerful without being a handful, extremely comfortable without putting you to sleep, and tech-savvy without requiring an I.T. department to figure everything out."

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My bigger concern would be the image I'm projecting when meeting customers/clients. Will pulling up in an S-class cause you to potentially lose some listings? People are quite funny sometimes. For example, as a contractor, you can pull up in an $80K dually F350 and not cause any reaction, but god forbid you pull up in a 15 year old MB S-class...
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I dont know how it is in other states, but in California, all realtors drive fancy cars. I dont think anybody who sees the S class is going to bat an eye, but I guess it depends on your clientele and the listings you have.

I also remember Steve has always wanted an S class for the longest time, so its clearly the one he should get. If you end up getting the A8, I feel like you will always wonder and regret about the S, so just fulfill this dream of yours.
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 10:48 AM
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If I'm being completely honest, the average layman would have a very difficult time telling the difference between an A4 and A8 and a C-Class with an S-Class unless they had them side-by-side. They'll judge the car by the badge first and foremost, and neither the Audi nor Mercedes badge would give them a different impression of perceived wealth.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I will watch this tonight!

Originally Posted by JDR76
I think your LS repair will come out well.

Between the A8 and S Class, I vastly prefer the exterior of the A8 (despite FWD proportions), but the interior of the S560. But when you do decide to go for it, I think you should get the S Class. First of all, it's the car you've long aspired to acquire, and second, if you get an A8, but when that lease is over you want to go to an S Class, this version of S560 that you like won't be available, and you'll either have to go in a new direction or go with the incoming S Class that it seems that you don't care for. You will have lost your opportunity to lease a new version of this S Class.
Thats another big driver of why I would consider doing this now.

I'm sure I will come around to the new S Class too.

Originally Posted by stasek
My bigger concern would be the image I'm projecting when meeting customers/clients. Will pulling up in an S-class cause you to potentially lose some listings? People are quite funny sometimes. For example, as a contractor, you can pull up in an $80K dually F350 and not cause any reaction, but god forbid you pull up in a 15 year old MB S-class...
This is a very real concern for me. The LS is the perfect car for what I do, it has the space, comfort and quality I want but isn't flashy, the A8 would be much the same way.

Originally Posted by RXSF
I dont know how it is in other states, but in California, all realtors drive fancy cars. I dont think anybody who sees the S class is going to bat an eye, but I guess it depends on your clientele and the listings you have.

I also remember Steve has always wanted an S class for the longest time, so its clearly the one he should get. If you end up getting the A8, I feel like you will always wonder and regret about the S, so just fulfill this dream of yours.
Very true...

Originally Posted by Motorola
If I'm being completely honest, the average layman would have a very difficult time telling the difference between an A4 and A8 and a C-Class with an S-Class unless they had them side-by-side. They'll judge the car by the badge first and foremost, and neither the Audi nor Mercedes badge would give them a different impression of perceived wealth.
The thing is size. These big flagship sedans are so big, people know its a big expensive car whether they really realize the difference in brand or not.



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