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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 10:35 AM
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I like my cars clean all the time, definitely an OCD thing. Thats why black would drive me so crazy.
I have had 3 black sedans and I love the color, there is just something about black sedans that looks so nice and elegant especially when they are polished. They aren't as bad as I thought when it comes to visible dirt but during the spring you do see the pollen, the visible swirls/scratches is what bothers me more. I was more OCD with my black GS430, polished it several times a year, tried all kinds of sealants and waxes, washed almost every week but it got old polishing it so much and washing it too much puts more scratches in a soft clear. I put a ceramic coating on my current GS for more protection that seems to repel dirt/water droplets a little better and I am not going to polish it anywhere near what I was doing with my other GS to try to make the ceramic coat and clear coat last as long as possible. I like dark greys too, whites can look good, silvers are okay, never was s fan of blues, tans, golds, greens, yellows, oranges, though I think done right a copper color can look good.
Old Sep 11, 2020 | 01:43 PM
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Pay me a number worthy of my skills and I will come be your personal fleet detailer.
I'll put you on retainer! Haha

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I have had 3 black sedans and I love the color, there is just something about black sedans that looks so nice and elegant especially when they are polished.
Totally agree
Old Oct 25, 2020 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, folks, I decided what my next new vehicle would be, and ordered it today, from the factory....anybody want to guess?

(I'll change the thread title if someone guesses)




There is a $3250 discount on outgoing Buick Encore GX models from 2020

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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
There is a $3250 discount on outdoing Buick Encore GX models from 2020
should be able to do waaaay better than that -- average 170 days on the lot to sell these.
Old Oct 25, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
There is a $3250 discount on outgoing Buick Encore GX models from 2020
......not sure the added risk of a first-year GM product is worth the incentives. There is a reason why they are often discounted. I went through that same quandary when I ordered my Lacrosse.
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The 2021 will be discounted huge too. Has nothing to do with it being a first year model. I agree I would avoid the first year too
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The 2021 will be discounted huge too. Has nothing to do with it being a first year model. I agree I would avoid the first year too
2020 is a bad year for production for anything. I even dreaded getting 2020 made tires for my car because of the uncertainty and angst everyone involved in the production process has been facing.
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True! Thats a good point lol
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The 2021 will be discounted huge too.
Money is not a critical issue with me, but, of course, the more discounts I get, the happier I will be. GM's policy is that ordered vehicles get the discounts in effect on the day of delivery, not the date they were ordered.



Has nothing to do with it being a first year model.
That might be the case with a first-year Toyota or Lexus whose reliability can usually be depended on, but, with GM and Ford, they have a reputation for early-production defects, which lessen markedly in the second-year. Of course, there are exceptions...with the Verano, the first-year 2012s actually turned out to be the most reliable ones, though the Verano was mostly an Opel product with some GM touches.



I agree I would avoid the first year too
The Explorer and Aviator are perfect examples.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
That might be the case with a first-year Toyota or Lexus whose reliability can usually be depended on, but, with GM and Ford, they have a reputation for early-production defects, which lessen markedly in the second-year. Of course, there are exceptions...with the Verano, the first-year 2012s actually turned out to be the most reliable ones, though the Verano was mostly an Opel product with some GM touches.
You misunderstand me, the rebate is not because its a first year model is what I'm saying.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You misunderstand me, the rebate is not because its a first year model is what I'm saying.

It may (?) be, if people are shunning the GX for that reason. Rebates are intended to move slow-selling vehicles. But.........the public sure isn't shunning the similar Trailblazer LOL....it currently sits on dealer lots less time than anything else on the market.
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People aren’t shunning it, these sorts of rebates are just the way GM does business.

2021 TrailBlazer has $750 in rebates itself.
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 08:19 PM
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The '20 rebates are likely to flush out the remaining '20 inventory to make way for the incoming '21s.

no different than many other brands.
Old Oct 26, 2020 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
It may (?) be, if people are shunning the GX for that reason. Rebates are intended to move slow-selling vehicles. But.........the public sure isn't shunning the similar Trailblazer LOL....it currently sits on dealer lots less time than anything else on the market.
I sure don’t understand the clambering for the Trailblazer. That vehicle will likely never be on any list of mine for any reason. I like the new Buicks, but I’m skeptical of their quality. It’s gone up & down frequently. They seem to have equipped them nicely.
Old Oct 27, 2020 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
People aren’t shunning it, these sorts of rebates are just the way GM does business.

2021 TrailBlazer has $750 in rebates itself.
Absolutely. GM has trained its customers to seek/obtain significant discounts so that they feel they've gotten a "deal" and now it's nearly impossible to wean those customers off that juice. So they'll continue to place MSRPs that have no basis in reality or competitive positioning, because they know that they'll mark it off a minimum of 10% with most of them transacting at 20% or more off that sticker price.



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