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I would say the other things are also true today as well. Daring design? Yes, though it's becoming more normal as all of Lexus's products are pretty "daring" now. Ride? Depends on the model, but cars like the RX and ES ride really well, and even something like the RC rides great for what it is. Build quality is good, if not incredible in some of their cheaper cars. I would say interior quality is true as well. Competitors are getting better, but the attention to detail in Lexus cars is really strong, especially when it comes to giving them unique designs - unlike German competitors that often have a common motif across their lineups.
I would say the other things are also true today as well. Daring design? Yes, though it's becoming more normal as all of Lexus's products are pretty "daring" now. Ride? Depends on the model, but cars like the RX and ES ride really well, and even something like the RC rides great for what it is. Build quality is good, if not incredible in some of their cheaper cars. I would say interior quality is true as well. Competitors are getting better, but the attention to detail in Lexus cars is really strong, especially when it comes to giving them unique designs - unlike German competitors that often have a common motif across their lineups.
I think the Germans have better interior design but the quality is the best in the Lexus. No creaks or rattles and stuff just lasts. The BMWs i've seen are rattle traps after 3 years. haha
I think the Germans have better interior design but the quality is the best in the Lexus. No creaks or rattles and stuff just lasts. The BMWs i've seen are rattle traps after 3 years. haha
Yeah it also depends on which model we're talking about too. It wasn't like my IS was completely rattle-free, but most of the issues were intermittent and something you wouldn't notice if you were a passenger. Everything in the car felt really solid and didn't give easily if I pressed on it. In my GTI, it's pretty well-built... for a mainstream car . But of course I still look back at the Lexus as being a lot more solid-feeling.
I do think some things about the German interior design is better, just generally more boring. But, boring can be great. I remember the Macan being a no-drama kind of interior experience - everything pretty much made sense, and there was nothing extravagant about it. However, it was really nicely made, with solid-feeling pieces, Alcantara headliner, good quality leather... all the stuff you want.
It’s not as reliable as before. Just look at the number of recalls in the last 2 years on Lexus vehicles which shares a lot of the same mechanical components with Toyota.
I would say the other things are also true today as well. Daring design? Yes, though it's becoming more normal as all of Lexus's products are pretty "daring" now. Ride? Depends on the model, but cars like the RX and ES ride really well, and even something like the RC rides great for what it is. Build quality is good, if not incredible in some of their cheaper cars. I would say interior quality is true as well. Competitors are getting better, but the attention to detail in Lexus cars is really strong, especially when it comes to giving them unique designs - unlike German competitors that often have a common motif across their lineups.
Two things (respectfully). First, IMO, none of today's Lexus models ride like they did in their heyday (the 1990s and early 2000s), although today's RX probably comes closest...its chassis and tires have changed the least. And I disagree on the interiors...today's thin, lightweight (and, in some cases, flimsy) materials cannot compare with the rock-like interiors of 20 years ago. And today's Lexus mouse-adjusters and pads on the console can be awkward to use, particularly on a bumpy road.
I respect your views, but I just don't see that much quality in today's Lexus products, outside of the fact that they are still well above average in long-term reliability. And, yes, they still do A-one-quality paint-jobs like they did 20 years ago....that hasn't changed.
Lexus HAS, however, come up with a couple of great innovations in the last couple of decades. One is the superb NuLuxe seat-upholstery, which, IMO, is the best imitation leather I've ever seen. The other is the Mark Levinson stereos, which, especially in the last-generation LS460 and its fourteen separate speakers, was just insanely good.
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Yes pull out a rear seat cushion from a 1992 LS400 and it’s still in a good shape. Try that with anything made today and it’s just not going to happen.
Two things (respectfully). First, IMO, none of today's Lexus models ride like they did in their heyday (the 1990s and early 2000s), although today's RX probably comes closest...its chassis and tires have changed the least.
I would add the ES to that list.
And I disagree on the interiors...today's thin, lightweight (and, in some cases, flimsy) materials cannot compare with the rock-like interiors of 20 years ago.
This has gotten much better. If you look at the interiors of the LC and the LS500 they are very solid with excellent materials, especially the LC.
I respect your views, but I just don't see that much quality in today's Lexus products
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. But of course I still look back at the Lexus as being a lot more solid-feeling.
