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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 02:50 AM
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I’d be interested if they put a Lexus hybrid in there.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
Yeah, my bad, I got lost in all the marketing mumbo jumbo.

On a separate wavelength, one has to wonder why they do all this stuff to try to mask the inherent problems in a FWD platform. As in, they make the hood longer, and they add in this complicated AWD system. Why not just create a dedicated RWD platform and be done with it. Seems a lot more straightforward to me, and probably would allow them to create larger vehicles with more profit margins. But what do I know about business, I'm just an engineer lol.
Because there are only "inherent problems" in a FWD platform to a very small niche of consumers. Even BMW has jumped off the Front Engine RWD train with the latest 2/X1/X2. **Gasp** Acura is continuing to hedge it bets that marketing and styling, along with some new engines, can cure it. RDX sells well in its segment with a FWD platform. Have had lots of commentary from friends I help with cars that Q5/GLC/X3 are nice and obviously have the brand, but can be difficult to fit in their child seats due to the "inherent problems" in a RWD platform of a similar footprint. And they love the room in the RDX.

So we'll see. Acura is trying to market to "performance" and "enthusiasts", where they know that FR is king, but there's likely a large set of people where looking like performance and having a Type S variant will be enough. No matter what wheels are driven/biased.

This from former engineering now turned business strategy and marketing mumbo jumbo.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 07:15 AM
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Are we looking at 400+hp from a turbo V6?
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 07:27 AM
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Are we looking at 400+hp from a turbo V6?
I doubt it but we can only hope. From the recent announcements of a Type S variant in the MDX, I really like where Acura is going with their lineup.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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Just curious... Have any of you cross shopped the IS with the TLX? I've always considered the TLX an ES competitor & other midsize luxury sedans. Also, I never would cross shop a TLX with an A4, 3 series, C class, etc. although this new Type S would be different being that the power competes with those performance variants over their midsize counterparts.

I know the ILX is very lacking & disappointing (& so is the IS300), but that's who I feel is in the same class.

Again, just curious.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...e-midsize-cars
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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With acura discontinuing the RLX and the TLX gaining width and length on the outgoing model, it looks like Acura is trying to move it up market a bit.
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Because there are only "inherent problems" in a FWD platform to a very small niche of consumers. Even BMW has jumped off the Front Engine RWD train with the latest 2/X1/X2. **Gasp** Acura is continuing to hedge it bets that marketing and styling, along with some new engines, can cure it. RDX sells well in its segment with a FWD platform. Have had lots of commentary from friends I help with cars that Q5/GLC/X3 are nice and obviously have the brand, but can be difficult to fit in their child seats due to the "inherent problems" in a RWD platform of a similar footprint. And they love the room in the RDX.

So we'll see. Acura is trying to market to "performance" and "enthusiasts", where they know that FR is king, but there's likely a large set of people where looking like performance and having a Type S variant will be enough. No matter what wheels are driven/biased.

This from former engineering now turned business strategy and marketing mumbo jumbo.
I get that, and in compact vehicles where space efficiency is more important, FWD certainly has its place. But I prefer RWD looks and proportions. I'm biased since I have two RWD cars haha.
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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MariJay
Just curious... Have any of you cross shopped the IS with the TLX? I've always considered the TLX an ES competitor & other midsize luxury sedans. Also, I never would cross shop a TLX with an A4, 3 series, C class, etc. although this new Type S would be different being that the power competes with those performance variants over their midsize counterparts.

I know the ILX is very lacking & disappointing (& so is the IS300), but that's who I feel is in the same class.

Again, just curious.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...e-midsize-cars
I agree with you.
The TLX is Accord midsize FWD-based and more ES-like, while the ILX is Civic compact FWD-based and more HS-like.

A HS is to an IS like the ES is to the GS.

Keeping in mind that Acura is using FT AWD in ILX & TLX as a substitute for RWD IS & GS.

The US-discontinued RLX also shared the FWD-based Accord platform of the TLX.
RLX was just a premium TLX.
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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 10:39 PM
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Really rooting for Acura to kill it with the type s. The next Feb tlx looks great. Acura is doing a great job with their turn around with the rdx and now this product. Lexus is literally just resting on its laurels at this point and becoming the early 10s Acura with no innovation, no power train improvements and no passion anymore
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Designed to lessen brain trauma risk, it will be offered to other automakers



When it arrives in showrooms this fall, the 2021 Acura TLX will be the first vehicle equipped with the new three-chamber front passenger airbag design Honda announced last year, reinforcing the automaker’s commitment to infused the sports sedan with state-of-the-art safety bonafides.

As explained in the video above, the new airbag was designed and developed by engineers at Honda’s R&D campus in Ohio and auto supplier Autoliv to mitigate the risk of severe brain trauma associated with angled frontal collisions. With its official launch in the 2021 TLX, the airbag will begin to be offered to other automakers through Autoliv.

Work on the new airbag design stemmed in part from a 2013 U.S. Department of Transportation study that used MRI scans to look at brain injuries resulting from vehicle accidents and led to the creation of Brain Injury Criteria methodology for measuring brain injuries in vehicle crashes. Accordingly, Honda and Autoliv designed an airbag that does away with the traditional single-inflatable chamber in favor of something likened to a catcher’s mitt, with a central “sail panel” net catching and slowing down the head and directing it inward between the two inflated side chambers. The idea is to better manage lateral forces in a collision that can cause an occupant’s head to rotate severely and at high velocity.

Honda is hailing the new airbag as a major advance in airbag design. It follows the company’s introduction, in 1990, of the first vertically deploying front passenger airbag for the 1991 Acura Legend, a design that became broadly adopted in the industry.
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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Good for Honda to innovate.....and some think air bags should not be in cars
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Good for Honda to innovate.....and some think air bags should not be in cars

No one on Car Chat, in my memory, has ever said that air bags should not be in cars. However, some have (correctly) pointed out that belts and harness are considered the primary-restraints in most vehicles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt

Seatbelts are considered Primary Restraint Systems (PRS), because of their vital role in occupant safety.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 07:49 AM
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Type S Turbo V6 Power has been finalized:

355 HP and 354 lb-ft of Torque. AWD and 10 Speed Automatic.

Just ahead of Audi S4, but short of BMW M340i or Infiniti Q50 Red Sport.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...ures-revealed/
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Type S Turbo V6 Power has been finalized:
I hope this time the Type S is not a sales-flop. I don't know if you remember the last Type S (from your videos, you seem to be a good deal younger than I am)...but the last Type S, an option on the CL coupe, did not do very well. And, from the test-drive I remember back then, it was nothing but a regular CL coupe with some red-stripe trim-pieces, slightly different wheels/tires, a little extra HP, and not enough extra torque to notice any real difference. It did offer a 6-speed manual, though...something that will probably be missing on the upcoming version.
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