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Old May 14, 2020 | 11:21 AM
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Not really... initiating a passing safely requires that you keep an eye on what's in front of you, behind you and to the sides. That's a lot of places to look at, and you can't really do it simultaneously. Closing speeds of 200KPH can very easily make you miss a 300+KPH vehicle when you're just cruising.
ok fair enough there's really no such thing as 'safely' going 190 mph but i'm just saying at no point did that GTR have to swerve or slam on the brakes because the other drivers are aware and responsible enough to have not been in the way in the first place

very frequently here it's only possible to pass on the right because people literally don't know that the left lane is for passing only, many people just think it's the 'fast lane'
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When Utah raised their interestate speed limit to 80 MPH, the increase in highway deaths year over year actually ended up being LESS than other states that did NOT increase their speed limits

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.p...04&itype=CMSID

Furthermore, most of those increases were on arterial roads and city streets

After speed limits were raised in recent years, highway deaths have climbed in Utah. But Miles said the higher speed limits are not to blame. Most increases in fatalities have occurred on arterial roads and city streets, he said, not freeways.

In addition, UDOT spokesman John Gleason notes that the number of vehicle miles traveled in the state increased amid cheaper gasoline prices in recent years, and higher travel usually brings more highway deaths. Miles said fatalities are up because of that by 10 percent to 15 percent in most states, while they have increased about 7 percent in Utah.

Such things as distracted driving and failure to use seat belts are bigger reasons for increasing deaths, Gleason said.
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ok fair enough there's really no such thing as 'safely' going 190 mph but i'm just saying at no point did that GTR have to swerve or slam on the brakes because the other drivers are aware and responsible enough to have not been in the way in the first place

very frequently here it's only possible to pass on the right because people literally don't know that the left lane is for passing only, many people just think it's the 'fast lane'
Trouble is, fining these people takes more effort than mailing a speeding ticket.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 04:42 PM
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When Utah raised their interestate speed limit to 80 MPH, the increase in highway deaths year over year actually ended up being LESS than other states that did NOT increase their speed limits

Furthermore, most of those increases were on arterial roads and city streets
Nothing wrong with changing the speed limits on rural highways to 80, especially when it's relatively flat countryside. The increase in urban deaths, if that's what you're referring to, can be attributed to the 12 years of population growth in Utah since the the state raised rural speed limits. The urban limit is still 65-70.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
ok fair enough there's really no such thing as 'safely' going 190 mph but i'm just saying at no point did that GTR have to swerve or slam on the brakes because the other drivers are aware and responsible enough to have not been in the way in the first place

very frequently here it's only possible to pass on the right because people literally don't know that the left lane is for passing only, many people just think it's the 'fast lane'
Lol. So are you saying that everyone else is basically in the way of speeders in supercars, and peasants should simply get out of the way of the priviledged few who own really, really fast cars playing Ricky Racerboy on urban and suburban roads? Sounds like Death Race 4000, The Sequel. Maybe get a Sly Stallone lookalike to play the speeding driver bent on full tilt Toyko Drift 5, the sequel to the sequel, lol.
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Lol. So are you saying that everyone else is basically in the way of speeders in supercars, and peasants should simply get out of the way of the priviledged few who own really, really fast cars playing Ricky Racerboy on urban and suburban roads?
well that wasn't what i was saying but i agree with it lol... firstly it's literally the law to stay out of the left lane except when passing, and if people could just follow THE LAW our highways could safely support a few people going slightly above the average of traffic

i also wouldn't classify that section of the autobahn as urban or suburban roads, i'm not saying get rid of all speed limits everywhere, a highway is literally a road meant to only be travelled at highway speeds... as others have mentioned another aspect making the autobahns safer is that people are constantly vigilant for the possibility of someone approaching at very high speeds, so wouldn't that be a good mentality to bring here? when you're going along at the current speed limits your mind has time to wander and get distracted by changing the music or checking some social media, go faster and you're not getting distracted by anything

but since increasing speed limits would cost jurisdictions to lose ticket revenue and it's so easy to just say 'speed was a factor' i don't see anything changing
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Old May 14, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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well that wasn't what i was saying but i agree with it lol... firstly it's literally the law to stay out of the left lane except when passing, and if people could just follow THE LAW our highways could safely support a few people going slightly above the average of traffic
That's ok. But there is also no reason to bully any driver who is in the left lane during a passing manuever because mom, grandma and the kids are out for trip to the mall and they happen to get in your E55's super_big_Fast_n_Furious_sequel_ speed record run on American interstates and roadways. Whatever gas station you're trying to get to, in order to fill up the tank for more thrills isn't worth hassling people on public highways.

i also wouldn't classify that section of the autobahn as urban or suburban roads, i'm not saying get rid of all speed limits everywhere, a highway is literally a road meant to only be travelled at highway speeds... as others have mentioned another aspect making the autobahns safer is that people are constantly vigilant for the possibility of someone approaching at very high speeds, so wouldn't that be a good mentality to bring here? when you're going along at the current speed limits your mind has time to wander and get distracted by changing the music or checking some social media, go faster and you're not getting distracted by anything
There are no "autobahns" in the US or Canada, or Mexico. You'll be just as bored doing 75, as 125, 150. You'll become normalized to the speed. Isn't that the point of what you're saying about these cars? C63? Your E55? They make it seem like the speed is nothing.

.... increasing speed limits would cost jurisdictions to lose ticket revenue and it's so easy to just say 'speed was a factor' i don't see anything changing
Not really. People will just speed even more in an escalating horsepower and top speed competition. In this case a 19 year old has set the speed record on a canadian highway 190 mph/308 km/hr. Woohoo. Let the next entitled rich kid go and break the speed record on a public highway and get his parents vehicle impounded for seven days.
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Maybe we need income based traffic fines like they do in some parts of Europe.
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Originally Posted by MattyG
There are no "autobahns" in the US or Canada, or Mexico. You'll be just as bored doing 75, as 125, 150. You'll become normalized to the speed. Isn't that the point of what you're saying about these cars? C63? Your E55? They make it seem like the speed is nothing.
but it's the getting to 125, 150 which is the fun part i'm mostly just looking for enough road where i can put my foot down and keep it there until the car naturally shifts into 4th which happens at 130, so more or less just 10 seconds worth of g forces... then coast back down to a casual 70-75... it's be a waste to get that car and not use it for its intended purpose

i'm not looking to drive at a sustained 150 all the time anyway i'd be getting like 8 mpg lol, not to mention tires will get used up much more quickly driving 150 everywhere... my point is speed alone is not nearly as evil as it's easy to make seem, everyone has a different opinion on what 'too fast' is though

also most people don't care about horsepower competitions, the majority of people will just drive at a speed they feel comfortable at anyway, but if those people have the mentality of i can be seriously hurt or killed if i'm not mindful of what lane i'm in or of what's coming up behind i seriously think there'd be fewer accidents
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Old May 14, 2020 | 07:07 PM
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The realistic speed limit for most US highways should be 80mph.
Theoretically the ppl going over that speed would be 25-50% on average. Compared to 100% now for 50-65mph limits.
If this happens- ticket revenue will go down like crazy.
Just go to any traffic court, you got attorneys, judges, cops, administrators etc all getting paid to give you tickets! Its a huge business for the local county and state.

Ideal situation would be like Autobahn with limits depending on weather, traffic congestion etc.
This is way too sophisticated for US and our ancient highways.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 07:28 PM
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but it's the getting to 125, 150 which is the fun part i'm mostly just looking for enough road where i can put my foot down and keep it there until the car naturally shifts into 4th which happens at 130, so more or less just 10 seconds worth of g forces... then coast back down to a casual 70-75... it's be a waste to get that car and not use it for its intended purpose.
Sure. Nothing wrong with that on an E55. Find your spot and have fun. But it also becomes habitual and normalized. This kid with the C63, he told the cops he was "comfortable" at 191 mph/308 km/hr. It's obvious he didn't do this for the first time. It used to be that you could pull these stunts 25 years ago. Now you have people with dashcams and smartphones. What do you think brought this C63 driver to the attention of the police? Just him alone on the QEW opening the beast up for fun? He got someone's attention didn't he?

also most people don't care about horsepower competitions, the majority of people will just drive at a speed they feel comfortable at anyway, but if those people have the mentality of i can be seriously hurt or killed if i'm not mindful of what lane i'm in or of what's coming up behind i seriously think there'd be fewer accidents
Most people drive GMC Terrains and Hyundai Sonatas. They're just trying to earn a living and get to somewhere where you won't be. They got daycare bills and soccer tournaments. You don't matter to them and coming up behind them at 100 mph is going to scare the living daylights out of them and their kids. Their lane is their lane and you can't bully them out of it. Which side would a police officer take if you come up behind a minivan with good family people on their way to somewhere and you demand that they get out of your hooning theatrics_mobile?
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
but it's the getting to 125, 150 which is the fun part i'm mostly just looking for enough road where i can put my foot down and keep it there until the car naturally shifts into 4th which happens at 130, so more or less just 10 seconds worth of g forces... then coast back down to a casual 70-75... it's be a waste to get that car and not use it for its intended purposes
Take it to a track! Good lord. That behavior has no place on a public road. The car's intended purpose is impossible to achieve on a public road, if you want to enjoy that speed you need to take it to a private roadway, its just that simple.

If you can't understand that, you don't deserve to have a drivers license.

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Most people drive GMC Terrains and Hyundai Sonatas. They're just trying to earn a living and get to somewhere where you won't be. They got daycare bills and soccer tournaments. You don't matter to them and coming up behind them at 100 mph is going to scare the living daylights out of them and their kids. Their lane is their lane and you can't bully them out of it. Which side would a police officer take if you come up behind a minivan with good family people on their way to somewhere and you demand that they get out of your hooning theatrics_mobile?
Exactly.

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Take it to a track! Good lord. That behavior has no place on a public road. The car's intended purpose is impossible to achieve on a public road, if you want to enjoy that speed you need to take it to a private roadway, its just that simple.

If you can't understand that, you don't deserve to have a drivers license.
Exactly.
I wonder how many of these speed racers are actually willing to take their own car to the track. It's a very expensive endeavor - you have to pay the fees for the track, you can easily go through a set of brakes and tires in matter of hours, and if you crash the insurance wont cover it.
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I wonder how many of these speed racers are actually willing to take their own car to the track. It's a very expensive endeavor - you have to pay the fees for the track, you can easily go through a set of brakes and tires in matter of hours, and if you crash the insurance wont cover it.
Clearly, not many.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Take it to a track! Good lord. That behavior has no place on a public road. The car's intended purpose is impossible to achieve on a public road, if you want to enjoy that speed you need to take it to a private roadway, its just that simple.

If you can't understand that, you don't deserve to have a drivers license.
what track? you say that as though I live near some track with a 3 mile long main straight that I'm just selfishly choosing not to use

and so basically any time I've gone above 100 and haven't taken out an entire family it's just been luck? it's ridiculous to say there's not a single stretch of empty highway in the entire east coast at any time that can't safely support flooring it for a few seconds when no one is around

you need to get it out of your head that I'm this constant menace lol... it sounds like I generally drive slower than you do
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