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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Fuel cells are a better solution compared to a EV transport truck that will take forever to charge.
Where are these fuel cell trucks going to refuel?
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 11:38 AM
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Where are these fuel cell trucks going to refuel?
obviously hydrogen refueling places would be needed at least on interstate service areas.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
obviously hydrogen refueling places would be needed at least on interstate service areas.
If there was enough demand maybe certain truck stops could add hydrogen refueling. Without the demand it would be a no go.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
And no more ridiculously noisy air brakes if regen can do the job
Air brakes aren't that noisy. More than hydraulic, but not terribly loud. Perhaps you're thinking of exhaust brakes? Regen is a perfect replacement for that.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Air brakes aren't that noisy. More than hydraulic, but not terribly loud. Perhaps you're thinking of exhaust brakes? Regen is a perfect replacement for that.
Hes thinking of exhaust or “jake” brakes.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
except our train tracks SUCK and the trains can't go very fast...
Not sure where you are at, but let's talk about California. There are three, well-groomed north-south mainlines between the Bay Area and L.A. BNSF and UP each have their own parellelling the I-5 Corridor, which has 70 mph speed limits. Trains can zip from city to city in less than a day. Do-able.

The third route is UP's Coast Line following the 101. A few more twists and turns, but the track is under-used.

There is plenty capacity and all the lines could host numerous trains of trailers every day. It's a clean and efficient method of getting the behemoths off the highway. In fact, before the highway growth boom of the 50's and 60's, CA railroads transported solid trains of vans for quite some time.

Not much of this seems like a big deal, but the fact that the 5 and the 101 are complete traffic disasters makes this important.





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If it was more efficient to use trains, manufacturers would. They do use trains for a lot of shipping.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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If it was more efficient to use trains, manufacturers would. They do use trains for a lot of shipping.
Who doesn’t use trains to ship cars?
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Who doesn’t use trains to ship cars?
All manufacturers do I believe. They use trains where its more efficient to do so and trucks where its more efficient to do so.

Companies aren't out here running freight more expensively than they have to.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
All manufacturers do I believe. They use trains where its more efficient to do so and trucks where its more efficient to do so.

Companies aren't out here running freight more expensively than they have to.
Trains for sure. Interesting, Toyota Mexico sends the Tacoma from port by water to port in the USA. Then by train. I always wondered if a dealer that is really close to a plant gets a special exception and they truck it over. Or if it has to go through the whole distribution network.
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If a dealer is close they will truck it from the port to the dealer. It does have to go to and through the port first
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For freight transit like this, its all about money. If using electric trucks will save freight companies money...then they will use electric trucks. If using trains will save them money....they will use trains. Its not like trying to convince private vehicle buyers to switch to another platform, for a commercial user its all about money.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
All manufacturers do I believe. They use trains where its more efficient to do so and trucks where its more efficient to do so.

Companies aren't out here running freight more expensively than they have to.

Trains are far more efficient carrying vehicles long-distances across the country, but, of course, in most cases, they don't have the option of delivering new vehicles to the actual dealerships themselves...they still have to be transferred to local trucks.

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Pretty sure thats what I said
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Pretty sure thats what I said
Nevertheless, freight/transportation is, IMO, one area where the auto manufacturers need to do better co-ordination with the trucking/railroad industries to keep costs down. The Destination/Freight costs on the new-vehicle-stickers have gone up significantly in the last few years....even in this era of cheap fuel (which, if anything, seems to be getting cheaper). A few years ago, for instance, a vehicle the size of the Escape would have run maybe $800-900 to ship to the dealer. The latest one I looked at, a couple of days ago, was $1195. I note, in my reviews, if I think the charge is unreasonable or not.
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