RAV4 manufacturing process
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Toyota does build reliable and (usually) smooth-operating powertrains.....some of the best in the business, which is why I don't agree with those here on Car Chat who constantly complain that Toyota and Lexus are "behind" the times and don't offer so-called "up-to-date" drivetrains. I don't care if it's up to date or not, as long as it is smooth-running, refined, reasonably economical with fuel, and stays out of the repair shop. Toyota (and especially Lexus) also does paint work with better-than-average quality, although the entire industry (perhaps Tesla excepted?) is much better with paint-jobs now than in the past.
But other parts of that video are seriously misleading. Those lightweight parts and sheet-metal that Toyota likes to flout as contributing to gas mileage and acceleration are just that...lightweight. And you notice it in tinny body panels, interior hardware, and trim. One notices definitely more solid hardware inside today's Korean-designed vehicles.
But other parts of that video are seriously misleading. Those lightweight parts and sheet-metal that Toyota likes to flout as contributing to gas mileage and acceleration are just that...lightweight. And you notice it in tinny body panels, interior hardware, and trim. One notices definitely more solid hardware inside today's Korean-designed vehicles.
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Anyways, this thread is not a Hyundai thread, it about the manufacturing of this particular Toyota model.
You are correct. Toyota does make more reliable models than Hyundai or KIA.
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No, not inside. There is a noticeable difference, at least to me, particularly in hardware.
You misquoted me. I said, at the time, that, IMO, the Palisade and Telluride, though with excellent fit/finis, used some hardware and parts inside that felt a little less-solid than on previous Kia and Hyundai products. But they still felt, IMO at least, more solid than on comparable Toyotas.
Only in the drivetrain...and then, not always so.
I remember you complaining about the material solidarity in the Palisade or Telluride. The new Highlander is heavier than the Palisade and has a smaller engine, so just maybe Hyundai uses cheaper materials. You never thought of that?
You are correct. Toyota does make more reliable models than Hyundai or KIA.
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Did he bother to check the oil? Can't speak for him, but you seem to be one of those who doesn't believe in regularly opening one's hood.
Anyways we are off topic talking about Hyundai. Lol.
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But other parts of that video are seriously misleading. Those lightweight parts and sheet-metal that Toyota likes to flout as contributing to gas mileage and acceleration are just that...lightweight. And you notice it in tinny body panels, interior hardware, and trim. One notices definitely more solid hardware inside today's Korean-designed vehicles.
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There is nothing in that video that is remarkable or new just about every modern car is made the same way. Granted Toyota does most everything better from design to testing to assembly etc.
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I agree that aluminum does make sense for some parts.....particularly the hood, if the vehicle has a manual prop-rod. Some steel hoods can be quite heavy.
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No, a lot more than that. I'm talking about thin plastic interior parts that, IMO, are sub-par in their flimsiness. And most interiors, today, to not contain aluminum parts.
I agree that aluminum does make sense for some parts.....particularly the hood, if the vehicle has a manual prop-rod. Some steel hoods can be quite heavy.
I agree that aluminum does make sense for some parts.....particularly the hood, if the vehicle has a manual prop-rod. Some steel hoods can be quite heavy.
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I strongly (very strongly) disagree that it feels better than comparable Korean SUVs...particularly the solid-as-a-rock Kia Sportage.
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It is pretty sad to see you keep pushing your Korean agenda.....here is a pathetic thing to see (but all makes can have these issues) on a KIA Dealership Website. https://www.gayfamilykia.com/blogs/1...erior-rattles/ Basically implying that anyone who buys a KIA will eventually have dash rattles.
I think every manufacturer is competitive with each others interiors in similar or different ways. KIA or Hyundai are not appealing to me, but they work for other people which is great.