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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
Agreed. Furthermore, these 3 row SUVs compromise the comfort of 2nd row seats to accommodate the third row, and thus the 2nd row is usually not comfortable.
Did not think I would get any support. But thanks.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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You have to like American cars to like the Escalade. The same thing Cadillac fans ask “why do people like Lexus or MB or BMW?”
Well for whats its worth, the Japanese Qx80 is just as dated and neglected as the American Escalade. Both these vehicles feel 2005, and there is a good chance that Infiniti and Cadillac will shut down.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS

Agreed second row in the Escalade sucks.
Toyota Sequoia second row captain seats are by far the best out of all SUVs.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:57 PM
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Well for whats its worth, the Japanese Qx80 is just as dated and neglected as the American Escalade. Both these vehicles feel 2005, and there is a good chance that Infiniti and Cadillac will shut down.
Cant stand the QX or Patrol/Armada. Hate the interior buttons. But they are top notch materials and if you like Nissan, you should be a fan. The Nissan twins sell worldwide, I think they are safe
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Toyota Sequoia second row captain seats are by far the best out of all SUVs.
Been a long tome since I’ve sat in one...
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Cant stand the QX or Patrol/Armada. Hate the interior buttons. But they are top notch materials and if you like Nissan, you should be a fan. The Nissan twins sell worldwide, I think they are safe
Perhaps so, but they both (along with the Nissan Titan pickup) for years, had a lot of QC problems from that Canton, MS plant. Recent ones have shown some improvement....perhaps because they are now built in Japan.

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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Been a long tome since I’ve sat in one...
They added them at some point. I don’t know when. But is super personal with a massive console to separate the two second row passengers. Recline, heat, own set up of earphones, sun shade, air vents. It is too bad the LX rear seat TVs are not in it. (Just my thoughts).

I always felt like the Sequoia was a like a massive van. No solid axle, adaptive variable suspension, lowers to ease loading, lots of air vents, very well designed rear folding seating with power controls in two four places, a giant V8....great for long distance hwy cruising. I think the next gen will go unibody like a X7 or GLS and will be the foundation for a North American Lexus.

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Och
Agreed. Furthermore, these 3 row SUVs compromise the comfort of 2nd row seats to accommodate the third row, and thus the 2nd row is usually not comfortable.
Disagree completely. When we were shopping, we wanted a two-row. There are only four of us, after all. But we quickly found that in order to get a 2nd row that was comfortable and roomy for people over 6 feet, you basically have to get a 3-row. We actually bought a cargo tray that completely covers the folded-down third row, such that it has to be completely removed from the vehicle in order to raise those seats.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Disagree completely. When we were shopping, we wanted a two-row. There are only four of us, after all. But we quickly found that in order to get a 2nd row that was comfortable and roomy for people over 6 feet, you basically have to get a 3-row. We actually bought a cargo tray that completely covers the folded-down third row, such that it has to be completely removed from the vehicle in order to raise those seats.
What did you get if you don't mind?
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 05:42 AM
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What did you get if you don't mind?
believe he got a Q7
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
believe he got a Q7
That's correct. We've had it for about 16 months and 19k miles now, and used the third row twice.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 06:13 AM
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The second row of my Highlander, with a panoramic sunroof, window shades, climate controls, and heated bucket seats is more comfortable than the second row of my previous 4RUNNER.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I do agree that a body on frame vehicle isolates the road better. Far better
thank you Striker. You’re excellent article confirmed my feelings about driving a BOF pickup vs just about any other vehicle. I belong to a Corvette Club and we have an all-car show in September. Our sponsor dealer lets us use his lot, but we must move all the cars to a remote lot 3 miles away. During that ‘car shuffle’ we drive just about everything Chevy sells. I always force my way to the front so I can drive the big ones. What I found this year, after driving a Suburban then Silverado back to back is that the Sub has been ‘civilized’ compared to the pickup. Your description is the first I’ve even seen that depicts the ‘feeling’ that I always tell people I had in my IHC Scout2 and my ‘86 K-5 Blazer. I was happy to find that the Colorado and the 100k mile used Nissan Frontier had the same driving characteristics.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Why wouldn't they? The only thing I'm lacking is new technology and gadgets. The car is still as smooth and quiet and comfortable, and capable as ever. Just because they're old doesn't mean the sound padding has disintegrated, etc.

And while we all know I'm very pro-BOF and wouldn't buy any unibody SUV or truck, I find it a stretch to say any pickup truck or BOF will track down the interstate at 100MPH and/or ride better than an LS430 does. I'd have to ride in whatever vehicle the poster was describing, but I really think that's a reach. LS430 has a heavenly ride and the suspension is world class; it hasn't trickled away because the car is old now. I don't really recall people replacing shocks and struts on them via here, only bushings.
Just randomly quoted you.

You have an older GMC. Do you like the current Tahoe or Yukon?
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Just randomly quoted you.

You have an older GMC. Do you like the current Tahoe or Yukon?

Love them. They really catch my eye. Love the redesign also, though would miss column shifter lol. Very eager to see 2021 Yukon Denali.
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