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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
My two local Toyota dealers have plenty of hybrids in stock. May be a regional thing, or perhaps Toyota is giving SoCal dealers more because they sell more (?).
That's scary for the Prius- a model that was just redesigned for 2019 to fix the botched styling.
they sell 10k per month, so there are plenty obviously.

As to the Prius, Toyota will probably sell 3x more hybrids in the USA today than when Prius had a 3 car lineup, just like what it happened already in Europe and Japan, its sales will be less as it is not unique and there are many other Toyota hybrids to chose from.

In 2019 you are not displaying your eco credentials by driving a hybrid anymore.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 04:35 AM
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Great posts spwolf, thanks.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 06:29 AM
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Well I guess I won't be getting a Hybrid any time soon. Demand>supply=no discounts.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 06:33 AM
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also remember toyota extended all its hybrid battery warranties on 2020+ models
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
In 2019 you are not displaying your eco credentials by driving a hybrid anymore.
Who cares? (That's not a criticism of you personally, but of the principle). I'm not necessarily a believer in going along with the crowd. I'm a firm believer in thinking for ones' self.


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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by situman
Well I guess I won't be getting a Hybrid any time soon. Demand>supply=no discounts.

As was pointed out earlier, it you are willing to put up with a Prius, you could probably get a discount. For the other Toyota hybrids.....obviously, no guarantees.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 07:33 AM
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When we leased our 16 Highlander Hybrid, there were hardly any available locally. The dealer had to get one from another dealer. I negotiated for 3 days and had to fight fight fight to get every dollar off of it that I could. The lack of supply and high demand for Highlanders in general were working against me.

When we bought our 19 Highlander Hybrid, there was a slightly better supply. My dealer had 5 or 6 at the time as I recall, and most local dealers had a few. Negotiations were better but lease rates were horrendous, so we just bought it outright.
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 04:01 PM
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Echoing some of the comments above, a (Toyota) hybrid in 2019/2020 is just a small premium over its ICE equivalent. Going to a BEV has its drawbacks (charging limitations, range in winter). Our household has one hybrid and one BEV, both excellent in different use cases where the BEV excels at the daily commute (extremely low cost/charge overnight) while the hybrid excels at long distance convenience and relatively low cost to an equivalent ICE vehicle.

Ideal vehicle: BEV with actual long (winter) range and quick charging (<15 mins 80% charge). Until then during this automotive transition phase, Toyota has a suite of excellent affordable hybrids.
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
Toyota has a suite of excellent affordable hybrids.
Pretty sure there will be more plug ins along the way.
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Related to the hybrid talk, just some one poster on local boards mention how with latest Toyota hybrid he tested (C-HR 2.0l), he easily got 65% of the drive with engine off in rush hour city drive... kind of silly that I never saw it that way but with latest hybrids getting well over 60% of the drive with engine off, it basically means out of 400 mile tank, you will get 250 miles driven in pure EV mode and in vehicle that can go a maximum of 1.2m out of full battery.

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