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The new Blazer is nice and not a competitor of the new Bronco.
That's its potential problem. We'll find out one way or another when the Bronco is introduced and we see some numbers, but, in general, people who buy the Trailblazer name want a Trailblazer, not a Pavement-Blazer. Even though (admittedly) not that many SUV owners actually go off-pavement nowadays, some of them still want the capability. For Soccer-Moms and their daily grocery-shopping/kiddie-hauling, that's what the Trax, Equinox, and Traverse are for.
That's its potential problem. We'll find out one way or another when the Bronco is introduced and we see some numbers, but, in general, people who buy the Trailblazer name want a Trailblazer, not a Pavement-Blazer. Even though (admittedly) not that many SUV owners actually go off-pavement nowadays, some of them still want the capability. For Soccer-Moms and their daily grocery-shopping/kiddie-hauling, that's what the Trax, Equinox, and Traverse are for.
I really don’t agree. Even when the Trailblazer was BOF, it wasn’t an off road vehicle. Lots of vehicles have made the transition from BOF to unibody and gone on to be successful.
I would say the new blazer is quite the flop from a sales perspective. It also never really got much momentum in the press. That whole big thing in Detroit with the stadium was not a good thing.
Yes, you're correct. GM's marketers were so embarrassed by the public's reaction to the Blazer that they had to remove it from display LOL.
I highly doubt this new trailblazer will be much different from a sales perspective. I also think the GM unions really made people aware of the blazer was a Mexican made product and that did not resonate in the US.
The OP article didn't mention where the Trailblazer was going to be built, but, since, according to Wiki, the Buick Encore GX will be built in Korea, my guess is that the Trailblazer will come from the same plant.
I really don’t agree. Even when the Trailblazer was BOF, it wasn’t an off road vehicle. Lots of vehicles have made the transition from BOF to unibody and gone on to be successful.
I think you may be confusing the full-size Blazer with the previous, mid-size BOF TrailBlazer, which was also sold as the Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy, Envoy XUV with the trick-roof for carrying tall objects, Saab 9-7X, and Isuzu Ascender. The true full-sized 2-door BOF Blazer was indeed an off-road vehicle., done on the full-size Silverado platform. The Z71 package made it even more so.
The previous mid-size BOF Trailblazer had some off-road capability......but not as much as the true full-size Blazer.
I think you may be confusing the full-size Blazer with the previous, mid-size BOF TrailBlazer, which was also sold as the Buick Rainier, GMC Envoy, Envoy XUV with the trick-roof for carrying tall objects, Saab 9-7X, and Isuzu Ascender. The true full-sized 2-door BOF Blazer was indeed an off-road vehicle., done on the full-size Silverado platform. The Z71 package made it even more so.
No, not confused at all. The previous Trailblazer was not a hard core off road vehicle.
No, not confused at all. The previous Trailblazer was not a hard core off road vehicle.
Correct...not hard core, but with some ability. The big full-sized Blazer was more hard-core, except that its large size hampered some maneuverability in tight spaces.
Correct...not hard core, but with some ability. The big full-sized Blazer was more hard-core, except that its large size hampered some maneuverability in tight spaces.
The previous Trailblazer was no more an off road vehicle than the BOF Explorer was. The Explorer made the transition away from BOF just fine, so I don’t understand why you hold Chevy products to different standards.
I loved my 2006 TBSS. I just got it at a bad time. It required premium gas and I was averaging 13 mpg's driving 60 mi per day. When prices peaked at $4.40/gal+, I had to set it free. The new version couldn't hold a candle to it.
The previous Trailblazer was no more an off road vehicle than the BOF Explorer was. The Explorer made the transition away from BOF just fine, so I don’t understand why you hold Chevy products to different standards.
Ford never made an Explorer that is comparable to the present Blazer. Even the previous 2010-2019 crossover/FWD Explorer (which preceded the current 2020 RWD version) was larger than the current Blazer and more of an SUV. This current Blazer, in a number of ways, reminds me of a Jeep Compass.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to spread hate and venom against any one vehicle......I don't believe in that, even though I have a low opinion of much of what GM has done lately. But sometimes (as I do when I make a mistake), we have to acknowledge that auto companies can, and do, make errors....sometimes serous ones. And GM, though not the only company to make errors, has a long history of them....Corvair, Vega, Citation, Fiero, diesel V8, variable-cylinder V8/6/4 engines, undersized transmissions, Aztek, etc..... So, IMO, the errors they make today are not surprising.
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I loved my 2006 TBSS. I just got it at a bad time. It required premium gas and I was averaging 13 mpg's driving 60 mi per day. When prices peaked at $4.40/gal+, I had to set it free. The new version couldn't hold a candle to it.
I loved my 2006 TBSS. I just got it at a bad time. It required premium gas and I was averaging 13 mpg's driving 60 mi per day. When prices peaked at $4.40/gal+, I had to set it free. The new version couldn't hold a candle to it.
13-14 model years later that still looks very nice.
6.0L LS2 V8 was standard on the SS trim. Same engine as the base Corvette of the day, though it made 6hp less in the TB, presumably due to intake/exhaust differences.
6.0L LS2 V8 was standard on the SS trim. Same engine as the base Corvette of the day, though it made 6hp less in the TB, presumably due to intake/exhaust differences.
Correct, thanks. The standard version was an inline 6, which I had in a 2002 Envoy.
I really don’t agree. Even when the Trailblazer was BOF, it wasn’t an off road vehicle. Lots of vehicles have made the transition from BOF to unibody and gone on to be successful.
I totally agree. Buyers arent stuck in the past, and many buyers were children or not even alive when the old Blazers were sold. Look at all the previously BOF SUVs that have gone crossover and been successful, Explorer, Pathfinder, Passport...
My first car was a BOF Explorer, and I'm shopping for a new vehicle and am looking at the new Explorer, unibody crossover is a plus for me not a negative.
As for the Blazer being a sales flop, where are the sales figures to back that up?
I think GM's issue is they have way too much overlap in their CUV business not the lack of appeal of any one product.
