UAW strike
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Ha. The Union is only getting warmed up. Their strike-fund, depending on whose source the information comes from, is large enough to last for a full 60 weeks. That's more than an entire year....at least at the current rate of weekly-distributions. They'll fight it out as long as they have to.
And, on that subject, I really admire the stamina, patience, and determination of the UAW workers. Although they are indeed backed by a powerful union itself, a lot of politicians, and do have the aforementioned strike fund to help them out, they are still showing remarkable courage in the face of injustice and corporate incompetence. It is not surprising that almost two-thirds of the public either formally backs them or approves of their actions.
And, on that subject, I really admire the stamina, patience, and determination of the UAW workers. Although they are indeed backed by a powerful union itself, a lot of politicians, and do have the aforementioned strike fund to help them out, they are still showing remarkable courage in the face of injustice and corporate incompetence. It is not surprising that almost two-thirds of the public either formally backs them or approves of their actions.
Strike pay is only $250 a week. I doubt many workers can last for 60 weeks on $1000 a month.
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I agree. Some are dipping into their savings. Still, it is better than nothing, and many unions don't have a strike fund at all.
This is not a typical or simple run-of-the-mill strike, and it is not going to end by simple, run-of-the-mill offers/negotiations. It is going to need a significant restructuring of how automakers do business and produce their products in the American market. If simple around-the-table negotiations could solve it, it would not have lasted anywhere near this long. We are now almost into a solid month....with perhaps more to come.
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Not for Toyota, Honda, Nissan or BMW or VW or Tesla or Mercedes, shall I keep going on? All of these companies are producing cars just fine.
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They are not manufacturers of American-nationality. Those companies are not obligated to build their vehicles here if they want to sell here...although, of course, so much the better if they do invest in American plants and hire American labor. But American companies such as Ford and GM have an obligation to hire American and Canadian labor. That has been overlooked and ignored by many for decades.....but will not be overlooked any more, unless they want more strikes and more tariffs.
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The only organization that can tell these union members to, "now get back to work", is the UAW itself. In fact, what has happened is that the GM leadership is now under pressure and all they did is "urge" the employees to come back to work, and the UAW is not happy about that.
Reuters: GM appeals directly to employees as strike losses mount.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WQ1O1
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WQ1JI
Reuters: GM appeals directly to employees as strike losses mount.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WQ1O1
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WQ1JI
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The only organization that can tell these union members to, "now get back to work", is the UAW itself. In fact, what has happened is that the GM leadership is now under pressure and all they did is "urge" the employees to come back to work, and the UAW is not happy about that.
Reuters: GM appeals directly to employees as strike losses mount.
Reuters: GM appeals directly to employees as strike losses mount.
You seem to be one of those who understand the issues here.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
They are not manufacturers of American-nationality. Those companies are not obligated to build their vehicles here if they want to sell here...although, of course, so much the better if they do invest in American plants and hire American labor. But American companies such as Ford and GM have an obligation to hire American and Canadian labor. That has been overlooked and ignored by many for decades.....but will not be overlooked any more, unless they want more strikes and more tariffs.
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Tesla has an assembly plant in Tilburg, Netherlands, for European-market vehicles.And there is nothing wrong with that. If Tesla wants to sell in Europe, they can build their vehicles there.
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If we look at younger people (who are becoming more and more progressive), and their views about company loyalty and workplace ethics, there is a shift coming and it does not favor old ideas about giving away your life to a company and working your brains out for nothing.
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Thank you. Very much like you, I believe there is a spectrum of union and non-union workplaces. Some are good and some are bad. Not all are good and not all are bad.
If we look at younger people (who are becoming more and more progressive), and their views about company loyalty and workplace ethics, there is a shift coming and it does not favor old ideas about giving away your life to a company and working your brains out for nothing.
If we look at younger people (who are becoming more and more progressive), and their views about company loyalty and workplace ethics, there is a shift coming and it does not favor old ideas about giving away your life to a company and working your brains out for nothing.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Next time, do a little research before you call someone wrong. Tesla has an assembly plant in Tilburg, Netherlands, for European-market vehicles.
And there is nothing wrong with that. If Tesla wants to sell in Europe, they can build their vehicles there.
Tesla has an assembly plant in Tilburg, Netherlands, for European-market vehicles.And there is nothing wrong with that. If Tesla wants to sell in Europe, they can build their vehicles there.
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OK, again, I never claimed that Tesla was either American or not American. No offense, but what part of that do you not understand? In fact, you brought the company up in this thread, not me.
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Availability of the mid-engine Corvette is going to be impacted by the strike. Production was set to start at the Bowling Green, KY plant, in December, but will likely be pushed back into early 2020....the longer the strike, the longer the potential delay.
https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...tte-production
https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...tte-production
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They are not manufacturers of American-nationality. Those companies are not obligated to build their vehicles here if they want to sell here...although, of course, so much the better if they do invest in American plants and hire American labor. But American companies such as Ford and GM have an obligation to hire American and Canadian labor. That has been overlooked and ignored by many for decades.....but will not be overlooked any more, unless they want more strikes and more tariffs.
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I was referring to the others, not Tesla. I thought that my reference was a given, but apparently not. Anyhow, it's not worth arguing all night about it. We can both agree that Tesla IS American, but also sells in Europe.
Anyhow, if you didn't see the thread that I just posted, the mid-engine 'Vette is going to be delayed. While I fully support the strike, I was also looking forward to a test-drive....that will also be delayed. Though they can be hard to find in some places, my local GM dealership usually does keep Covettes in stock.
Anyhow, if you didn't see the thread that I just posted, the mid-engine 'Vette is going to be delayed. While I fully support the strike, I was also looking forward to a test-drive....that will also be delayed. Though they can be hard to find in some places, my local GM dealership usually does keep Covettes in stock.