Luxury car percentages
05-15-19, 03:23 PM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
It's not that I think that GM products are necessarily that great in reliability (a number are not), though the smaller, Opel-based Buicks have had a generally good reputation for staying out of the shop. Most sources admit that, in the American market, Lexus is probably at the top of the list for general reliability. But there are a number of things about the (newer) Lexus products that I do not like, especially compared to earlier ones. And as for many GM products, I do like the fit/finish, interiors, low noise levels, and driving-refinement. Buick also gives you a standard Lexus-length warranty (6/70, 4/50) at generally lower cost.
Last edited by mmarshall; 05-15-19 at 03:27 PM.
05-15-19, 04:04 PM
#32
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'ever' is a long time. 
'long enough' in your opinion. and just because i didn't buy ANOTHER jeep does not make my ownership experience 'irrelevant'. we can just agree to disagree.
i'm NOT a 'brand' person. i buy what i like. i find that every brand makes vehicles that vary from appealing to vomit-inducing.
It is admirable that you have changed brands all the time. BUT you don't keep them long enough and the fact that your Jeep was so lovable is irrelevant as you did not buy another one.
Now contrast that to my family, my father hated his Lexus and knew it was not right for him, so he went with an Avalon realizing it was the correct vehicle. Or any case, my mother knew her past 4Runner was not to be given away, so we kept it and she got another one. (we know, you don't like the new 4Runner) If you buy another Genesis, than that is very telling.
05-15-19, 04:06 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
05-15-19, 04:11 PM
#34
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05-15-19, 05:07 PM
#36
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i guess to you if i don't get another genesis i'm not brand loyal or perhaps you conclude i was disappointed in my genesis experience (not at all) but i've never been brand loyal so the only 'telling' thing is that i'm not brand loyal.and like most consumers, i don't claim in any way to be consistent. i had 2 suvs but for the hell of it decided to go back to a sedan. my next vehicle could well be electric and so if genesis doesn't have one that might be the end of my genesis adventure until perhaps after the next vehicle.
05-15-19, 05:19 PM
#37
Lexus Fanatic
very telling of what, i'm not sure. i guess to you if i don't get another genesis i'm not brand loyal or perhaps you conclude i was disappointed in my genesis experience (not at all) but i've never been brand loyal so the only 'telling' thing is that i'm not brand loyal.
and like most consumers, i don't claim in any way to be consistent. i had 2 suvs but for the hell of it decided to go back to a sedan. my next vehicle could well be electric and so if genesis doesn't have one that might be the end of my genesis adventure until perhaps after the next vehicle.
i guess to you if i don't get another genesis i'm not brand loyal or perhaps you conclude i was disappointed in my genesis experience (not at all) but i've never been brand loyal so the only 'telling' thing is that i'm not brand loyal.and like most consumers, i don't claim in any way to be consistent. i had 2 suvs but for the hell of it decided to go back to a sedan. my next vehicle could well be electric and so if genesis doesn't have one that might be the end of my genesis adventure until perhaps after the next vehicle.
^^^ all extremely important in gaining market share.
05-15-19, 06:13 PM
#38
Lexus Test Driver
"......NOT better than each car's competitors......"
Ah, as an XT4 owner that used to have a Lexus NX the interior is as good or better to me and the infotainment system on the Caddy is far superior. The Entune system is crap and needs a total revision along with eliminating the awful touchpad. But it's hard to get over the bias in this group which keeps spewing out nonsense.
Ah, as an XT4 owner that used to have a Lexus NX the interior is as good or better to me and the infotainment system on the Caddy is far superior. The Entune system is crap and needs a total revision along with eliminating the awful touchpad. But it's hard to get over the bias in this group which keeps spewing out nonsense.
05-15-19, 09:22 PM
#39
Lexus Fanatic
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I already expect Genesis to have a better retention rate that Chrysler (your Jeep brand).
Toyota has the highest retention rate.
one of my neighbors ONLY buys mercedes. he's had a dozen of them probably. all the talk on here of problems and he's kept some of his for decades... he has a trusted independent mechanic, and owning several cars, he's never without one to drive anyway.
but i've known VERY few people who stick with one brand exclusively. some are just stubborn.
or fear change despite not even liking what they drive.
^^^ all extremely important in gaining market share.
cars aren't like carbonated drinks, i believe the car market is more fragmented than ever, with lower and lower retention rates. old buyers may have stuck and continue to stick with specific brands, but i think younger buyers are much more adventurous, a great thing.
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