Every few years we need to be taught a lesson
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This confirms my (biased) opinion that slow drivers are the root cause for fast drivers and cause more traffic incidents. I am perfectly fine driving the speed limit on most roads but when some slow driver is hogging the fast lane completely oblivious to people around them , it brings the worst out of me and I end up blowing past the speed limit to get in front.
It's getting worse too. We went down 95 from SC to Orlando to Disney a couple of week ago and I found that when there are 3 lanes, the far right lane was often less backed up. Exactly the opposite of how it is supposed to work.
don't you mean ludicrous?
and yes the silent near instant teleportation of really fast teslas is absolutely a 'luxury' feature that no other car short of a 918, regera, or rimac can match... a big turbo will inevitably still cause the tesla to become #rekt given enough space, but nothing rules the urban/suburban streets like the P100D
also you can absolutely tear past people but they don't shout at you since there's no noise to make them think speeding has occured lol
and yes the silent near instant teleportation of really fast teslas is absolutely a 'luxury' feature that no other car short of a 918, regera, or rimac can match... a big turbo will inevitably still cause the tesla to become #rekt given enough space, but nothing rules the urban/suburban streets like the P100D
also you can absolutely tear past people but they don't shout at you since there's no noise to make them think speeding has occured lol
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Truth on both sides. The real problem (and has been for years) is that the concept of having to yield in the left lane (for faster traffic) contradicts that of having firm, posted speed limits. What we actually have here are two laws, each working against each other. On one hand, the law says don't speed, but (in some states) then says turns around and move out of the way for those who do....and, of course, emergency vehicles (police/fire) always have the right of way, no matter how fast or slow they are going.
But what is at issue for some people here is that there are drivers who drive the speed limit and do not move over to the right lane thus they sit in the left lane.
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thinking about it, you probably should have only cracked your driver window about an inch, and told the LEO you are a Sovereign Citizen, that she has no right to detain you, that you know the law and you are filming her. probably would have received a much better outcome than you did.
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I was thinking about this some more. I made a poor decision, because I did not really entertain the possibility of the driver accelerating as I tried to pass. I think as I watched the video, it was on purpose. Doesn't matter, I have to take full responsibility. A proper response would have likely been to have reached 40 mph, and then tail-tucked and drop back to being behind and do the 17 mph thing again.
It also illustrates how these slow drivers behave. They've got some chip on their shoulder and no consideration. Look at my original post--17-20 mph. Watch a 5 min. video and I bet at least 50% of the folks out there would want to pass on a dotted line.
Today at the gym, I thought to myself again. These folks my grandparents age are all walking around naked, and I don't get it. Even in sports I do remember showering with others (I'm no spring chicken), but we didn't walk around naked, we put on a towel. Also, I notice many of these men don't use soap to wash their hands. Millenials won't even touch a door handle without a paper towel! What am I saying? Put someone the above age now on the road. They likely think much differently than many do. I will reiterate, 17-20 mph, dotted line, what do you do?
I bet you that person got satisfaction knowing I was pulled over. What they don't know is that I have a video of their behavior, and more importantly, I did not receive summonses. But keep living and learning.
It also illustrates how these slow drivers behave. They've got some chip on their shoulder and no consideration. Look at my original post--17-20 mph. Watch a 5 min. video and I bet at least 50% of the folks out there would want to pass on a dotted line.
Today at the gym, I thought to myself again. These folks my grandparents age are all walking around naked, and I don't get it. Even in sports I do remember showering with others (I'm no spring chicken), but we didn't walk around naked, we put on a towel. Also, I notice many of these men don't use soap to wash their hands. Millenials won't even touch a door handle without a paper towel! What am I saying? Put someone the above age now on the road. They likely think much differently than many do. I will reiterate, 17-20 mph, dotted line, what do you do?
I bet you that person got satisfaction knowing I was pulled over. What they don't know is that I have a video of their behavior, and more importantly, I did not receive summonses. But keep living and learning.
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like I said... #rekt
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There should be a bumper sticker, "Inconsideration is not a crime." Pretty sure the Constitution protects inconsiderate people.
Yesterday we were at Costco. It was packed, I mean packed (you know when there are so many people it's nearly impossible to get in line to check out--physically no room to form a line properly).
They had that pull down open at the exit, AND, the side door opened wide. This is so people could get in to return, or exit, if they didn't purchase anything.
This guy maybe 60 y.o. backs up a mobility cart and parks it right in the doorway. How stupid is that? Gets up, walks away. I was thinking a terrorist would do that to obstruct access. Whenever I see someone do something stupid I think probably had bypass surgery where the brain is damaged, even normal incosiderate people don't do that. And, again I say, these folks drive cars, and are on the road. Better to avoid contact, which may mean to not pass them, as they are erratic individuals.
Yesterday we were at Costco. It was packed, I mean packed (you know when there are so many people it's nearly impossible to get in line to check out--physically no room to form a line properly).
They had that pull down open at the exit, AND, the side door opened wide. This is so people could get in to return, or exit, if they didn't purchase anything.
This guy maybe 60 y.o. backs up a mobility cart and parks it right in the doorway. How stupid is that? Gets up, walks away. I was thinking a terrorist would do that to obstruct access. Whenever I see someone do something stupid I think probably had bypass surgery where the brain is damaged, even normal incosiderate people don't do that. And, again I say, these folks drive cars, and are on the road. Better to avoid contact, which may mean to not pass them, as they are erratic individuals.
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Truth on both sides. The real problem (and has been for years) is that the concept of having to yield in the left lane (for faster traffic) contradicts that of having firm, posted speed limits. What we actually have here are two laws, each working against each other. On one hand, the law says don't speed, but (in some states) then says turns around and move out of the way for those who do....and, of course, emergency vehicles (police/fire) always have the right of way, no matter how fast or slow they are going.
Out here in the west at least, when you're out in the open interstate, it's very common to come across a long line of vehicles going 65ish in a 75-80 mph zone in the right lane, usually because of semis. Then you have a long line of cars taking their damn sweet time passing those cars..usually going only a few MPH faster. Sometimes they just match speeds.
The idea of a quick pass is so that you don't just turn the left lane into a travelling lane. When it becomes a travelling lane, you'll end up with 2 cars side-by-side going 70 in a 75. And there is NOTHING more infuriating.
There's also fewer things more infuriating than Dudley Do Right deciding that he's going to go exactly the speed limit in the left lane because he thinks he's helping society by enforcing speed limits on the people behind him. NOBODY likes this guy. Speeding is normal. Yes it's against the law, but it's not some grave moral failure to drive 80 in a 75. Most officers won't even write a ticket for that. And speeding rarely inconveniences the other drivers on the freeway(unless you start tailgating or weaving in and out in a dangerous manner). Utah actually had a lower rate of accidents after they increased the speed limit from 75 to 80 on I-15.
Of all the things to be passionate about, I've never understood the passion for never going above the speed limit.
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The idea is that you can go faster in the left lane so that you can quickly get around a line of slower traffic and maintain a steady flow.
Out here in the west at least, when you're out in the open interstate, it's very common to come across a long line of vehicles going 65ish in a 75-80 mph zone in the right lane, usually because of semis. Then you have a long line of cars taking their damn sweet time passing those cars..usually going only a few MPH faster. Sometimes they just match speeds.
The idea of a quick pass is so that you don't just turn the left lane into a travelling lane. When it becomes a travelling lane, you'll end up with 2 cars side-by-side going 70 in a 75. And there is NOTHING more infuriating.
There's also fewer things more infuriating than Dudley Do Right deciding that he's going to go exactly the speed limit in the left lane because he thinks he's helping society by enforcing speed limits on the people behind him. NOBODY likes this guy. Speeding is normal. Yes it's against the law, but it's not some grave moral failure to drive 80 in a 75. Most officers won't even write a ticket for that. And speeding rarely inconveniences the other drivers on the freeway(unless you start tailgating or weaving in and out in a dangerous manner). Utah actually had a lower rate of accidents after they increased the speed limit from 75 to 80 on I-15.
Of all the things to be passionate about, I've never understood the passion for never going above the speed limit.
Out here in the west at least, when you're out in the open interstate, it's very common to come across a long line of vehicles going 65ish in a 75-80 mph zone in the right lane, usually because of semis. Then you have a long line of cars taking their damn sweet time passing those cars..usually going only a few MPH faster. Sometimes they just match speeds.
The idea of a quick pass is so that you don't just turn the left lane into a travelling lane. When it becomes a travelling lane, you'll end up with 2 cars side-by-side going 70 in a 75. And there is NOTHING more infuriating.
There's also fewer things more infuriating than Dudley Do Right deciding that he's going to go exactly the speed limit in the left lane because he thinks he's helping society by enforcing speed limits on the people behind him. NOBODY likes this guy. Speeding is normal. Yes it's against the law, but it's not some grave moral failure to drive 80 in a 75. Most officers won't even write a ticket for that. And speeding rarely inconveniences the other drivers on the freeway(unless you start tailgating or weaving in and out in a dangerous manner). Utah actually had a lower rate of accidents after they increased the speed limit from 75 to 80 on I-15.
Of all the things to be passionate about, I've never understood the passion for never going above the speed limit.
Anyway, I think more and more we are a society that is simply so diverse, we agree on little. I am for the, if all the traffic is moving at 80, and the speed limit is 70, then drive 80. If the speed limit is 55, and all the traffic is going 45, then go 45. Go with the flow. Alternate merge. Use the entire length of the onramp to merge. Here in PA people stop at the beginning of the ramp, then turn in at a 45 degree angle. It's silly.
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thinking about it, you probably should have only cracked your driver window about an inch, and told the LEO you are a Sovereign Citizen, that she has no right to detain you, that you know the law and you are filming her. probably would have received a much better outcome than you did.
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