Does anyone know why Lexus only made 1 keyhole on its newer cars?
04-22-19, 12:57 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
Automakers have been deleting the passenger-side lock since the days that most cars started coming with a fob (even with a physical key). I'm pretty sure my 2000 Acura TL had no passenger side lock, and there was definitely no trunk lock.
I know my '07 IS had a trunk lock though. Can't remember passenger side (access to the physical keyhole was under a pop-off cover).
Lesson for all of us--test your physical key every once in a while.
I know my '07 IS had a trunk lock though. Can't remember passenger side (access to the physical keyhole was under a pop-off cover).
Lesson for all of us--test your physical key every once in a while.
04-22-19, 06:58 PM
#18
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Yet they have automatic door open sensors on both sides of the door when you touch the door handle. Doesn't the sensor cost more than a key cylinder lock?
Nice guess.
To everyone who said to hire a locksmith, I was going to do that. All locksmiths I called quoted me for $95 up. Too expensive. I borrowed a DIY door opener kit and did it with a few friends. Finally unlocked the door, albeit the paint inside the door jamb was a bit scratched from the tool. Afterwards, we opened the hood and put in a brand new battery. I'm a happy camper now. Now I need to ask the first owner about where he got his door actuator repaired and chase after who did it and have them redo the job.
I'm still mad that Lexus entirely removed the keyhole for the passenger side and rear tailgate. For aesthetic purposes that is real stupid. If they were going for aesthetics then they should've hid the keyhole under the door handle and under the license plate lights. That way, not only it achieves the clean look, but the keyhole wouldn't easily be dirty and it deters car thefts (as it is harder to find keyholes). Next thing I think Lexus is also stupid for doing is their ugly grilles. This is the main reason why I bought a 3rd gen RX instead of 4th gen to avoid it in the first place.
04-22-19, 07:52 PM
#19
Lexus Champion
Yes--but virtually no one uses the passenger side key hole. People barely use the driver side key hole. Your very rare situation is looking for a redundancy of a redundancy.
Last edited by tex2670; 04-23-19 at 05:27 AM.
04-23-19, 03:48 AM
#20
Super Moderator
Though obviously it does happen, the situations where the battery is dead, the car is locked and the key cylinder is broken are probably vanishingly rare.
04-23-19, 05:39 AM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
I am the second owner. The door actuator was changed once by the original owner. Not sure what repair shop did he brought it to.
Yet they have automatic door open sensors on both sides of the door when you touch the door handle. Doesn't the sensor cost more than a key cylinder lock?
I looked at the owner's manual, I don't think it has one.
My first gen Lexus has one wide open, why can't my new Lexus have one? At least they could've hid the keyhole under the license plate lights for a cleaner look.
Nice guess.
To everyone who said to hire a locksmith, I was going to do that. All locksmiths I called quoted me for $95 up. Too expensive. I borrowed a DIY door opener kit and did it with a few friends. Finally unlocked the door, albeit the paint inside the door jamb was a bit scratched from the tool. Afterwards, we opened the hood and put in a brand new battery. I'm a happy camper now. Now I need to ask the first owner about where he got his door actuator repaired and chase after who did it and have them redo the job.
I'm still mad that Lexus entirely removed the keyhole for the passenger side and rear tailgate. For aesthetic purposes that is real stupid. If they were going for aesthetics then they should've hid the keyhole under the door handle and under the license plate lights. That way, not only it achieves the clean look, but the keyhole wouldn't easily be dirty and it deters car thefts (as it is harder to find keyholes). Next thing I think Lexus is also stupid for doing is their ugly grilles. This is the main reason why I bought a 3rd gen RX instead of 4th gen to avoid it in the first place.
Yet they have automatic door open sensors on both sides of the door when you touch the door handle. Doesn't the sensor cost more than a key cylinder lock?
I looked at the owner's manual, I don't think it has one.
My first gen Lexus has one wide open, why can't my new Lexus have one? At least they could've hid the keyhole under the license plate lights for a cleaner look.
Nice guess.
To everyone who said to hire a locksmith, I was going to do that. All locksmiths I called quoted me for $95 up. Too expensive. I borrowed a DIY door opener kit and did it with a few friends. Finally unlocked the door, albeit the paint inside the door jamb was a bit scratched from the tool. Afterwards, we opened the hood and put in a brand new battery. I'm a happy camper now. Now I need to ask the first owner about where he got his door actuator repaired and chase after who did it and have them redo the job.
I'm still mad that Lexus entirely removed the keyhole for the passenger side and rear tailgate. For aesthetic purposes that is real stupid. If they were going for aesthetics then they should've hid the keyhole under the door handle and under the license plate lights. That way, not only it achieves the clean look, but the keyhole wouldn't easily be dirty and it deters car thefts (as it is harder to find keyholes). Next thing I think Lexus is also stupid for doing is their ugly grilles. This is the main reason why I bought a 3rd gen RX instead of 4th gen to avoid it in the first place.
Aren't you looking at the glass as half empty? I'd be happy to be back on the road after the issue you experienced...my .02
04-23-19, 05:49 AM
#22
i find it funny that it's lexus designers fault a door lock wasnt repaired properly. Yea your old lexus has 3 door locks...cuz its old before keyless entry was invented. To answer your question you dont need multiple keyholes when you have keyless entry. You complain now but imagine losing your key and having to pay labor and parts to rekey 3 door locks vs just the one that comes with keyless entry.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 04-23-19 at 06:20 AM.
04-23-19, 09:35 AM
#23
The window and sunroof closing anti-jam feature works when you do Not hold the button after triggering it.
If you are defending against an intruder you should lift and Hold the button to force the window closed.
The remote window roll down works by holding the fob Unlock while they open fully or partially.
If the fob could close the windows by holding you might attempt it while not watching and close a window
on a child's hand...or head.
If you are defending against an intruder you should lift and Hold the button to force the window closed.
The remote window roll down works by holding the fob Unlock while they open fully or partially.
If the fob could close the windows by holding you might attempt it while not watching and close a window
on a child's hand...or head.
04-23-19, 08:00 PM
#24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Glad you got it opened! I have wondered at times on my other car, what if the battery died and I can't get the trunk opened due to no power. In that case I suppose there is a keyhole on the driver door, and a keyhole on the trunk, so 2 ways, hood is cable operated, trunk electric, battery mounted in trunk.
Aren't you looking at the glass as half empty? I'd be happy to be back on the road after the issue you experienced...my .02
Aren't you looking at the glass as half empty? I'd be happy to be back on the road after the issue you experienced...my .02
i find it funny that it's lexus designers fault a door lock wasnt repaired properly. Yea your old lexus has 3 door locks...cuz its old before keyless entry was invented. To answer your question you dont need multiple keyholes when you have keyless entry. You complain now but imagine losing your key and having to pay labor and parts to rekey 3 door locks vs just the one that comes with keyless entry.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
04-24-19, 05:54 AM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
i find it funny that it's lexus designers fault a door lock wasnt repaired properly. Yea your old lexus has 3 door locks...cuz its old before keyless entry was invented. To answer your question you dont need multiple keyholes when you have keyless entry. You complain now but imagine losing your key and having to pay labor and parts to rekey 3 door locks vs just the one that comes with keyless entry.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
You could easily just take off the door panel to reattach the cable faster and less hassle than bothering the previous owner, hunting down the shop that did it, driving it there (if its even local), and probably having to leave the car for them to fix it. You bought a used car, obviously not checking the mechanical lock before purchase. This is what potentially comes with the territory when you buy a used car.
04-24-19, 07:57 AM
#26
Lexus Champion
My brother when he got a used car once, contacted the previous owner, on facebook, looked him up and found out where he lives, was telling me where he works, emailed me pics of the guy's vacation in NH. I told him you're my brother, but wtf are you doing stalking the guy, he traded a car into a dealer, it's not like you're friends! lol
04-24-19, 08:33 AM
#27
Lexus Fanatic
Honestly I don't sell much. One time a guy at work showed me his BMW snows on factory rims. I said sweet, where'd you get them? Craigs list. I said nice. He threw in, "And I met the guy at Lowe's. I'm not having some psycho come to my house and kill my family."
I was like huh? He said yeah people have been killed using Craigs list. I actually had no idea, it's like how good is the deal if you never make it home? lol
I was like huh? He said yeah people have been killed using Craigs list. I actually had no idea, it's like how good is the deal if you never make it home? lol
04-24-19, 08:39 AM
#28
Lexus Champion
My brother when he got a used car once, contacted the previous owner, on facebook, looked him up and found out where he lives, was telling me where he works, emailed me pics of the guy's vacation in NH. I told him you're my brother, but wtf are you doing stalking the guy, he traded a car into a dealer, it's not like you're friends! lol
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