Does anyone know why Lexus only made 1 keyhole on its newer cars?
#1
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Does anyone know why Lexus only made 1 keyhole on its newer cars?
Why did Lexus only made one keyhole for its new cars? My old Lexus has THREE keyholes, one on the driver's door, one on the passenger door, and one on the rear tailgate. What if the car battery is dead and the keyhole to open the car manually doesn't work? What happens if the key cylinder or the door actuator broke? How else can you get in?
Because that's what happened to me right now. My car battery is dead and the only keyhole to open the car door doesn't work. How else can I get into the car without breaking the glass? Another reason why I hate things going electronic. Electronic shifter like on the Land Rover/Jaguar cars? Electronic ebrakes like on Mercedes and even on cars like the Camaro? Ugh.
Does anyone know how I can get in my car to open the hood to change the dead battery? I am frustrated...
Because that's what happened to me right now. My car battery is dead and the only keyhole to open the car door doesn't work. How else can I get into the car without breaking the glass? Another reason why I hate things going electronic. Electronic shifter like on the Land Rover/Jaguar cars? Electronic ebrakes like on Mercedes and even on cars like the Camaro? Ugh.
Does anyone know how I can get in my car to open the hood to change the dead battery? I am frustrated...
#2
Lexus Champion
What's wrong with the lock? Maybe give it a spray of penetrating oil?
#3
Intermediate
Thread Starter
The physical key doesn't open the car door, even if I turn it left or right. I'm the second owner of the car. I think the car door actuator has been changed by the first owner, and the tech probably forgot to link the lock back to the cylinder. Inserting the key into the keyhole feels smooth and buttery, I don't think a spray of penetrating oil will work. I don't feel any resistance when twisting the key left or right.
#6
Lexus Fanatic
The reality, imho, is a physical key is used less often than a spare tire, which is also gone in many vehicles. So I could see mfgs leaving them off.
In the last 21 years, I've used a key once on a door. On the LS430 when the coin cell in the fob died. It actually was not cool, because the fob was broken where the key would not stay extended, and it was pouring rain, leaving a hockey game. But I lived lol It wasn't the fob not working, but the fact that I couldn't keep the key extended to turn the lock. Luckily another fan had a paper clip that I could use (I subsequently bought someone's never used LS430 valet fob on eBay for $14, took the end door off of it, and put it on mine) The next time this happens the key can stay extended.
In the last 21 years, I've used a key once on a door. On the LS430 when the coin cell in the fob died. It actually was not cool, because the fob was broken where the key would not stay extended, and it was pouring rain, leaving a hockey game. But I lived lol It wasn't the fob not working, but the fact that I couldn't keep the key extended to turn the lock. Luckily another fan had a paper clip that I could use (I subsequently bought someone's never used LS430 valet fob on eBay for $14, took the end door off of it, and put it on mine) The next time this happens the key can stay extended.
#7
Super Moderator
Some cars have a keyhole underneath the trim on the passenger door handle--don't know if yours is among these. you just carefully pry it off and then use the key as normal.
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#8
Lexus Champion
I read a report several years back, when the manufacturers started deleting the passenger side keyhole, that most auto break-ins occur on the passenger side, so it was an attempt to make that harder. There may be some truth to that, I suppose, but overall I think it was just deemed unnecessary and and easy thing to delete and save some money on an item that most won't care about.
My GS has one on the driver's door, and one on the trunk lid. I'd have to check my Highlander. I know there isn't one on the passenger door. Not sure about the rear hatch.
My GS has one on the driver's door, and one on the trunk lid. I'd have to check my Highlander. I know there isn't one on the passenger door. Not sure about the rear hatch.
#9
Lexus Fanatic
I once asked some state troopers at work because I know they worked grand theft, "Any truth to the VINs being hidden in places on vehicles, where only LE knows?" They all burst out laughing and asked me what episode of Law and Order did I see that on. I thought **** Wolf was the real deal?
#12
Lexus Fanatic
edit: If this is a 4 door vehicle, there are 3 other doors that can be opened, regardless of keyhole or not, by a locksmith who can access the mechanisms, since all 4 doors can be locked or unlocked (if a coupe then there is one other door).
As you say, when in doubt call someone who will not break the mechanism. If there were a regular **** like on GM cars then AAA could open it in < 5 sec. They have a tool that has a noose that can grab the ****, and they have wedges that can create a gap small enough to lower the noose. But my Lexus and BMW do not have ***** that can be grabbed in that fashion, so I assume all Lexus do not.
So this jogged my memory, there was a 2nd time (or period) where I did use the key on a car, over the last 21 years.
Last edited by Johnhav430; 04-22-19 at 10:42 AM.
#13
Lead Lap
The physical key doesn't open the car door, even if I turn it left or right. I'm the second owner of the car. I think the car door actuator has been changed by the first owner, and the tech probably forgot to link the lock back to the cylinder. Inserting the key into the keyhole feels smooth and buttery, I don't think a spray of penetrating oil will work. I don't feel any resistance when twisting the key left or right.
I also wonder if Lexus dealers have some kind of "Master" key that can open the car somehow...
#14
Lexus Test Driver
I read a report several years back, when the manufacturers started deleting the passenger side keyhole, that most auto break-ins occur on the passenger side, so it was an attempt to make that harder. There may be some truth to that, I suppose, but overall I think it was just deemed unnecessary and and easy thing to delete and save some money on an item that most won't care about.
My GS has one on the driver's door, and one on the trunk lid. I'd have to check my Highlander. I know there isn't one on the passenger door. Not sure about the rear hatch.
My GS has one on the driver's door, and one on the trunk lid. I'd have to check my Highlander. I know there isn't one on the passenger door. Not sure about the rear hatch.
I know my '07 IS had a trunk lock though. Can't remember passenger side (access to the physical keyhole was under a pop-off cover).
Lesson for all of us--test your physical key every once in a while.
Last edited by tex2670; 04-22-19 at 12:47 PM.