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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 05:35 PM
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I was really impressed with the interior on the Black Label Navigator they have there.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I respect other outlets as well (particularly Alex Dykes and Consumer Reports)....but, ultimately, I judge a vehicle by my own impression.
that’s fine to trust your gut. But sitting in a car for 2 minutes at a car show or taking a vehicle on a test drive around the block isn’t really the same as the experience the “pros” have with each vehicle
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
that’s fine to trust your gut. But sitting in a car for 2 minutes at a car show or taking a vehicle on a test drive around the block isn’t really the same as the experience the “pros” have with each vehicle
I don't judge by a two-minute inspection. That's why I write full-reviews, though I admit I haven't posted one for awhile.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I don't judge by a two-minute inspection. That's why I write full-reviews, though I admit I haven't posted one for awhile.
Your opinion you posted of the CT5 interior was based on the couple of minutes you spent in the vehicle at the car show, no?
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
Your opinion you posted of the CT5 interior was based on the couple of minutes you spent in the vehicle at the car show, no?

No. I stated the non-V CT5 version was locked, and further compromised by tinted glass. The V-version, which WAS open, seemed well-assembled, particularly compared to some other recent Cadillacs, but IMO was not particularly plush....it was heavily sport-compromised.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 11:31 PM
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The Caddy wasn't anywhere near as nice as the Mercedes and Audi at the auto show (LA). I sat in the CAddys for awhile and they just weren't up to the German levels. Mercedes just blows it away. Audi is also really really nice.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The Caddy wasn't anywhere near as nice as the Mercedes and Audi at the auto show (LA). I sat in the CAddys for awhile and they just weren't up to the German levels. Mercedes just blows it away. Audi is also really really nice.
Audi has a history of doing impressive interior materials and superlative fit/finish, though the recent A3 models are somewhat of a step down from that.

Unfortunately, all of the Germans (except VW) skipped D.C. this year, so I couldn't do a direct comparison there at the show....let's see if they show up at Baltimore, Philly, Chicago, New York, or Detroit.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Audi has a history of doing impressive interior materials and superlative fit/finish, though the recent A3 models are somewhat of a step down from that.

Unfortunately, all of the Germans (except VW) skipped D.C. this year, so I couldn't do a direct comparison there at the show....let's see if they show up at Baltimore, Philly, Chicago, New York, or Detroit.
Mercedes interior was very impressive. However, I prefer the Audi design though. Lexus and Caddy haven't kept up with those two interior unfortunately. BMW jut leaves me feeling cold. Not really a fan of their interiors but the quality is very high.
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 11:33 AM
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New Cadillac CT5 Is a Step Backwards

Cadillac's new-for-2020 sedan remedies some flaws of the previous CTS yet gives up on the driving excellence that had begun to define its cars.
HIGHS: A rear seat tolerable for adults, improved infotainment, attractive exterior design.

LOWS: Softer tuning dulls a sharp handling chassis, unimpressive four-cylinder powertrain, déclassé interior.
Our car came nearly loaded and had several option packages, which brought the price to $54,590. That's within the realm of what's reasonable for a car in this segment—we've had four-cylinder 3-series test cars pushing nearly $60K—but despite the slightly larger size, we wouldn't want to pay that much for this CT5 considering its lackluster road manners, dull engine, and comparably drab environs.

Other than its more spacious rear seat and improved infotainment controls, Cadillac's CT5 doesn't remedy the weaknesses of the outgoing CTS nor does it enjoy the sharp driving dynamics that made the CTS's flaws easier to stomach. Perhaps the CT5-V and its upcoming V-8–powered variant will embody more of the driver-machine connection that we've come to expect in modern Cadillac sedans, but the regular CT5 feels like a step backwards.
Full article can be found on Car and Driver.
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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LOWS: Softer tuning
That's not necessarily a low in my book. Several recent Cadillac sedans have simply been too firm by Cadillac standards.
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 07:12 AM
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Road and Track really praises the new car.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-drive-review/

and I think they NAILED the design...



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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 07:32 AM
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Motor Trend likes it also.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/cadi...B515D1BA40E9E5"Here's the thing: When you think about the cars the CT5-V is directly targeting—S4, M340i, and C43—you conclude that Cadillac's got them all beat, not just on price but also on what really matters in this segment: performance. None of those three Germans drives like this thing. Even though I shouldn't be, what with the recent history of Cadillac V lineup, I am impressed and surprised."


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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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Saw the new sedans at the auto show. One had a wonderful purple or close to it leather. Very nice inside. Better than BMW and Audi for sure. But, perception. DOA. Nobody will buy a Cadillac in US over the Germans.....aside from Escalade. It really is too bad.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Road and Track really praises the new car.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-drive-review/

and I think they NAILED the design...

True, but they are looking at it from the usual sport-orientation of auto-magazines. The average Cadillac buyer is not looking for a sport-sedan or BMW-competitor. And, as far as the styling goes, IMO, it is not a true sedan, but a 4-door coupe.

Still better, though, than what Buick has done by going to all-SUVs. I'll give Cadillac that much credit. Right now, any sedan is better than no sedan.
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
True, but they are looking at it from the usual sport-orientation of auto-magazines. The average Cadillac buyer is not looking for a sport-sedan or BMW-competitor. And, as far as the styling goes, IMO, it is not a true sedan, but a 4-door coupe.
Its supposed to be a sports sedan
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