2020 Mazda CX-30
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I actually recommended it to my parents. My dad currently drives a Mazda3 sedan which he absolutely loves, but his back is getting worse and worse, and it's too low for him, so he has trouble getting in and out. Since the CX-30 is literally a Mazda3 hatchback on stilts, it should be just about perfect.
But to your point, they're also going to look at the larger CX-5, and probably the RDX as well.
If Genesis were releasing a small/midsize CUV, that'd be a slam dunk for them because they absolutely love their Hyundai Genesis. But the GV80 is going to be too big/expensive for them.
But to your point, they're also going to look at the larger CX-5, and probably the RDX as well.
If Genesis were releasing a small/midsize CUV, that'd be a slam dunk for them because they absolutely love their Hyundai Genesis. But the GV80 is going to be too big/expensive for them.The CX-30 is cool but generally I am against those crossovers like the CX-5. When I was comparing it to the 6 before buying one the CX-5 did considerably worse with efficiency and didnt ride as nice on the highway. Plus the 6 has slightly more rear leg room.
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it's too low for him, so he has trouble getting in and out.
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And that would raise the car several inches how? to re-quote myself:
They don't particularly want a CUV, but they are getting to the age where they need the extra height for ingress/egress. I don't think they'll actually get the CX-30 though, because they'll want their next car to have a large enough backseat for my son when he's with them.
They don't particularly want a CUV, but they are getting to the age where they need the extra height for ingress/egress. I don't think they'll actually get the CX-30 though, because they'll want their next car to have a large enough backseat for my son when he's with them.
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I was going to make the same comment re. Lexus NX or UX.
The newest addition to our family's lineup was a new NX300 to replace an aging 2009 Honda Oddysey. I can't stand SUV's, trucks, most crossovers, etc. The ride was still to high up for me even with the drivers seat at the lowest setting, but the car doesn't drive like a jacked up crossover at all. It was firm with good body control and felt more like a big sedan. I wouldn't mind having it as my daily driver and this is coming from someone who is a die-hard sedan/coupe guy.
The newest addition to our family's lineup was a new NX300 to replace an aging 2009 Honda Oddysey. I can't stand SUV's, trucks, most crossovers, etc. The ride was still to high up for me even with the drivers seat at the lowest setting, but the car doesn't drive like a jacked up crossover at all. It was firm with good body control and felt more like a big sedan. I wouldn't mind having it as my daily driver and this is coming from someone who is a die-hard sedan/coupe guy.
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Let's get this one back on track. I was just trying to offer a use case where the CX-30 might be a good fit. The reviews I've seen universally praise the Mazda3 hatchback, and also note that the CX-30 is essentially the same vehicle, trading a touch of driving dynamics for the additional height and more comfortable seats.
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Let's get this one back on track. I was just trying to offer a use case where the CX-30 might be a good fit. The reviews I've seen universally praise the Mazda3 hatchback, and also note that the CX-30 is essentially the same vehicle, trading a touch of driving dynamics for the additional height and more comfortable seats.
fwiw, I see your father’s use case. Also, when the rear seats are folded down, I find these vehicles to have some fairly usable space in back. With that said, the audience of Mazda 3 hatchback owners who want a higher ride height seems to be a fairly limited slice of the pie.
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Well, they can charge a premium for the product and make abnormal margins as a low quantity vehicle. VW makes a Golf R and it makes money but sells in really low volume and improves the image. Mazda is struggling because it hasn't kept up with its brand image of Zoom Zoom. Really, almost none of their products really go zoom anymore
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You're confused. Their prior image was building sporty cars that go zoom zoom not building mainstream cars. They had Mazdaspeed way before they had a CX-5. They are going away from what made them initially successful with their zoom zoom commercials. I understand them trying to grow share but if you're competing on mainstream branding and not providing what your reputation is based on, you're gonna get crushed by the incumbents that make appliances (Toyota, Honda, etc). They are going away from their unique value proposition and that's going to bite them in the end.
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You're confused. Their prior image was building sporty cars that go zoom zoom not building mainstream cars. They had Mazdaspeed way before they had a CX-5. They are going away from what made them initially successful with their zoom zoom commercials. I understand them trying to grow share but if you're competing on mainstream branding and not providing what your reputation is based on, you're gonna get crushed by the incumbents that make appliances (Toyota, Honda, etc). They are going away from their unique value proposition and that's going to bite them in the end.
theres a very obvious reason why Mazdaspeed was axed several years back. It's not a volume seller.